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Let's talk again: The Milk in a Fruit Loops style juice
submitted about 10 years ago by xrofaMixologist

Let me begin the thread by saying that I've been trying to nail this one for a while but I've hit a "mixer's block" where I can't simply put a finger on how to do it.

Let's start by examining what people usually do for a Fruit Loops Style juice.

  • TPA/TFA Fruit Circles and Berry Crunch

Well, we've all been there. The motherfreacking Fruit Circles.

While I didn't liked this flavor from the start (using it at 7%.. I wonder why) but as soon as I started to understand this flavor and overall play in the whole juice, I toned it down to 1% and this is in my opinion how it should be used. If you're trying to do a juice that tastes like the leftover milk from a Froot Loops/Fruity Pebbles you can't have the Lemon too strong, it needs just to be a hint and let the milk in it shine.

The Berry Crunch I feel that it complements the Fruit Circles really well at 1.5%. Why? Well, after too many atempts I figured that Berry Crunch needed to be toned down to, just like Fruit Circles, let the Milk shine and just be an undernote.

  • FW Yellow Cake

This one I still can't figure out what it does in the whole mix, but it does something. I might be getting vapers tongue or something like that, but I simply can't taste it but I miss it when he's not there. Seeing the percentage that other mixers use, I decided that it should be at 1%.

These 3 Flavors make my whole "Fruit" base for the ejuice. Altough Yellow cake should be considered a "cream" part of the juice, in my opinion it's used to boost and complement the Fruit Circles. Same story for the Berry Crunch.

So the fruit base is:

  • 1.5% TPA Berry Crunch
  • 1% TPA Fruit Circles
  • 1% FW Yellow Cake

Now here comes the worst part. How to achieve a Sweet Milk to put on front of the Fruit Circles combo? Easy I thought. Let's put Malted Milk, Sweet Cream, Vanilla Custard, Sugar Cookie and Bavarian Cream. It works, and it's a good vape. But it's not the Sweet Milk I'm aiming for, it always lacks on something. I've tried countless reiterations with almost every percentage that's possible but I'm almost sure that something is still missing.

Also, I tried playing with Fresh Cream, Meringue and almost everything that people usually use on these milk vapes.

My milk base is:

  • 2% TPA Bavarian Cream
  • 1.5% TPA Malted Milk
  • 2% CAP Sweet Cream
  • 4% CAP Vanilla Custard V2

My next batch will have CAP Cake Batter at a very low percentage to see if it does something.

What do you guys think and what would you do?

I apologize for any language mistake or word used, but English is not my mother language.

NINJA EDIT: I was vaping one of my complete juices (a strawberry Milkshake) and it came to my idea to use the exact same base that I use for it and instead of using Strawberry I'll put Fruit Circles and Lucky Leprechaun in it and I'll see what it does.

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by tranceinateabout 10 years agoMixologist

Yellow cake is neither part of the fruity bases or part of the creamy bases lol... It helps to make the "cereal grain" texture/flavour when mixed with FW Hazelnut & probably FA Bergamot.

I don't like bavarian cream. I don't like malted milk. I definitely don't like sweet cream and Cap custard is alright.

Try:

  • 1 - 1.5% Fresh Cream FA
  • 1% Vienna Cream FA
  • 1% Vanilla Custard FLV

You wouldn't put bavarian cream, malted milk, sweet cream, & vanilla custard inside a glass & drink it and expect it to taste like sweet milk, would you?

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by joesphaaabout 10 years ago

+1 for flv vanilla custard, extremely great at this percentage for cereals.

Adding to the discussion of "The Milk/fruit loops or pebbles" style mixes, FE Lemon hits the lemon note very well. I also like to include a little orange to complete the citrus. Layering it with sweet fruits flavors also helps.

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

Yeah, FLV VC is on the way to my home right now, I'll test it as soon as I get it. Man, that FE Lemon.. I wish some vendor in Europe had it.

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by crosstown_rebelabout 10 years ago

to be fair, lots of those are milk products, but i see where you're coming from

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by tranceinateabout 10 years agoMixologist

Bavarian, Malted, Sweet, & Custard are literally all milk products, they're made from milk; but they're not milk

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

Milk! Tell me your secrets...

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by crosstown_rebelabout 10 years ago

I see that but neither is fresh cream and people are recommending that. Its just like hazlenut yellow cake and meringue arent cereal products but give a cereal base. Flavor compounds are kind of different in that sense

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

I'd love to have TFA/CAP/etc Sweet Milk. Please?

But I get it, I'm just trying to emulate the taste in it, sometimes playing with different flavors you get something you weren't expecting.

I will definitely make room for the Fresh Cream. I'll start at 1% and play with it.

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by tranceinateabout 10 years agoMixologist

What? You said you were aiming for a sweet milk taste in your final mix.

Yup, sometimes you do get different things than you were expecting. You won't be getting a milk-like vape from that combination of flavours/percentages, though.

Fresh Cream really is the closest flavour to straight milk that I have found. 90% of the time I use it at 1% & it adds that perfect milky undertone, which often gets sweetened by other flavours I use, like peach or strawberry or FLV vanilla custard

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

I was saying that everything would be easier if we had a flavor called Sweet Milk (and that it tasted accordingly).

Time to go to the lab.

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by coop34about 10 years ago

I would change the maled milk to FA fresh cream at 2-3%

I don't know whether I would even use vanilla custard.

Looks like you are headed toward something nice!

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

Vanilla Custard is really a must in this juice. Fresh Cream at the percentage gives me a Panna Cotta flavor that is really not what I'm looking for, but I will try it.

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by seratneabout 10 years ago

Maybe try FLV Vanilla Custard if you have it on hand. It leans more towards a pudding with less of an eggy taste and might fit better.

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by tranceinateabout 10 years agoMixologist

Fresh Cream at what percentage?

How much fresh cream are you actually using? Fresh Cream tastes milk or in certain mixes almost tastes like buttermilk.

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by SadPandaVapesabout 10 years agoMixologist

Highly disagree. I sell a cereal milk flavor and fresh cream is crucial.

My base is a mix of sweet cream, fresh cream, dairy milk, marshmallow and sweeteners. Vanilla custard takes away from a milk feel and gives too much of a cream feel.

Yellow cake is for a cereal texture not for taste so much.

If you are going for a straight milk vape and not a cereal vape then drop the yellow cake, imo.

I do agree with your fruit base ideas though...I cringe when i see Fruit Circles higher than 2%.

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by BigT_SCabout 10 years ago

Where do you sell your juice at?

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

Thanks for you answer! I'll try to drop Vanilla Custard, it's one of those flavors I never thought dropping from the recipe.

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by crosstown_rebelabout 10 years ago

FW Milk 3% Bavarian Cream 2% Cap Vanilla Custard 2%

Fruit seems a little bit weak imo.. 5% berry crunch would be a nice crunchy start maybe with some brown sugar

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

I have already used Brown Sugar extra but I dropped it, maybe I'll think about it next iteration.

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by darkox711about 10 years ago

You should give Vanilla Bean Ice cream a shot.

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

unfortunately I'm one of those in the reserved group that can only smell and taste pepper in VBIC..

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by cache4goldabout 10 years ago

Have you tried a little (1-2%) TFA Marshmallow to help round out the cream?

It gives things a little fuller flavor and would make sense from a what-would-you-actually-have-in-leftover-cereal-milk perspective. Just my two cents. It looks like you have the makings of a really good recipe though. I'll be interested to see further iterations.

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by xrofaabout 10 years agoMixologist

I don't have the TFA Marshmallow, right now I only have CAP and LA. I'll add that one to my todo list.

Any help is appreciated.

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by VapeQueen214about 10 years ago

Capellas marshmallow should work just as well as tfa IMO

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by n0gg1nabout 10 years ago

Try TFA french vanilla deluxe. It does taste like a sweet milk to me.

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by NOifsANDSorBUTZabout 10 years ago

Check out Hangsen's creams

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by Arodsteezy2about 10 years ago

I believe I can help get you that milkiness. Do add cake batter, I think it pairs with fruit circles very well.

  • Fruit Circles (fta) 3%
  • Cake Batter (cap) 2%
  • Cheesecake [graham crust] (tfa) 1.5%
  • Sweet Cream (tfa) 1.5%
  • Bavarian Cream (tfa) 1%
  • Cream (flv) 0.5%
  • Crunch Cereal (flv) 0.25%
  • Toasted Marshmallow (tfa) 0.25%

Optional

  • Sub Crunch Cereal (flv) with Biscuit (inw)
  • Coconut (flv) 0.25% (trust me, so smooth and buttery)
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by camerajunkieabout 10 years ago

Thanks for sharing, as someone who has just started mixing and thoroughly enjoy cereal type juices, I've been trying to understand them!

Everyone's responses are helping me quite a bit!

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