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What were some misconceptions you had before starting DIY?
submitted about 10 years ago by gzzvv

I will never run out of juice! Wrong. As I'm squirting the last ml into my tank it hits me that I haven't made anymore yet... queue running to my DIY station to mix up a huge batch, because school is starting and I can't let that happen again.

My friends will come running for some of my amazing free juice! Wrong. Vapers are picky and I only have two friends who enjoy the recipes I've mastered so far.

Mixing by volume will be so easy and simple! Wrong. If you've ever switched from volume to weight you know why.

I'll never want to buy juice again! Eh. Kind of true. I don't ever want to spend money on "premium" juice again but I do miss my old favorite ADV's and I don't have the skills to clone stuff yet... which I've been learning the hard way.

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by fizzmustardabout 10 years agoBest Recipe of 2014

I mentioned this in another thread recently, but my first foray into juicemaking involved buying a 1dram bottle of LorAnn cinnamon oil from a local baking shop. I dripped it straight, undiluted, mixed with no nicotine...just the flavoring by itself...down a paperclip onto my blue-foamed cartomizer.

That was like 5 years ago. I still remember...

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by Panooliedabout 10 years ago

I'm surprised you can't still taste it

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by catdumplingabout 10 years ago

I'm surprised he still has a throat.

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by mmm_chitlinsabout 10 years ago

Hahahaha, please describe it in detail. I'm sorry, but that's a brilliant story.

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by PalefaceVaperabout 10 years ago

Haha, holy smokes. That had to be discussing. I'm surprised you can't still taste it as well. Reminds me of when I tried pluid for the first time... Hated the stuff, and couldn't wash the flavor out of that atty for the life of me. Ended up throwing it away.

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by vaperforlifeabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

>I will never run out of juice!

I headed out to work last night and realized I only had one almost empty bottle of juice to take with me. I just spent the last hour or so remaking about 4oz of juice for me and my wife. That should hold us over for a while...

>My friends will come running for some of my amazing free juice!

A few did, and at $10 per 30ml it's a great deal. What I didn't expect is for the local vape shops to convince them that DIY juice is bad for them compared to theirs.

"But you watched me make it and you SAW exactly what went in it"

"Yea but they said that the flavorings you used were bad."

"IT'S THE SAME FUCKING SHIT THEY USE!"

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by abdadaabout 10 years ago

I spend more money on retail juice than ever. Mostly to try to get a taste of various popular mixes and see if I can figure out what they're using.

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by RobertDF902about 10 years ago

Retail Juice

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by abdadaabout 10 years ago

Lol

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by hownaoabout 10 years ago

For real. It's gross, and horribly unsatisfying after the first couple hits. "The Milk" by Teleos is chock full of it. I liked it at first but it was just... blegh.

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by paul8m3about 10 years ago

I thought more was better. If its good at 5% it will be awesome at 10% and incredible at 15%. wrong. I learned the hard way

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by ThirdWorldOrderabout 10 years ago

Yeah flavor strength is sort of a bell curve

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by RobertDF902about 10 years ago

That there would be less vape mail. I was only ordering juice before. Now it's flavours, bottles, PG/VG, nicotine, a scale, more bottles, more flavours etc.

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by catdumplingabout 10 years ago

Yeah, the boxes just got more awkwardly-sized.

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by BreakyNinjaabout 10 years ago

You need to steep it. I shake and vape EVERYTHING.

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by Thegreensgoblinabout 10 years ago

Me too. Sometimes I just go bottle to bottle like that

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by BreakyNinjaabout 10 years ago

Me too friend.

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by AndyBeatzabout 10 years agoMixologist

Yeah, I was told at my local B&M before I started mixing to let it steep for 4 months. I have only hot rice steeped anything and it's still better than their juice so whatever.

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by ReverendSaintJayabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

> I will never run out of juice!

I'm guilty of this. Having enough materials to make a half-liter of juice != having a half-liter of juice.

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by Vendeta44about 10 years ago

When I first started tinkering with the idea of DIY, i thought a heated hot plate with magnetic stirrer was required.

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by Payne21about 10 years ago

Being a grad student, I have access to this along with new bottles, pipettes, scale etc. My weekends are going to be busy!

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by hoo_am_meabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Not required, but holy shit are they awesome.

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by tournantabout 10 years agoMixologist

Truth

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by desesaoabout 10 years ago

you don't use this much?

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by bringabananatoapartyabout 10 years ago

That I'd bang out a good mix right off the bat. Hahahahaha*sob*

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by goddamnbuttramabout 10 years ago

I did. I've just started within the past week and i made a simple 33%vg 6mg nic peach and honeysuckle flavor. This guy i work with is in love with it and has now gotten two 15mls from me. But don't get me wrong, it was luck and the sidebar here that made it possible. Now i need more flavors (only have 5 currently)

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by 1800fullytorquedabout 10 years ago

I thought /u/wilciws (the guy that got me into DIY) was some sort of wizard, before I got into it and realized how fun and easy it is.

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by wilciwsabout 10 years agoMixologist

TIL I was a wizard

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by CzarMesaabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I figured that juices that tasted muted were because the juice companies were cheap and skimping on the flavoring! Took me way too long to admit my error.

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by GreatBigPigabout 10 years ago

Would you please expand on this?

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by CzarMesaabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

More flavoring does NOT necessarily equal more flavor, paradoxically. Too much flavoring overpowers your taste buds until it all just tastes muddled. With a juice thats going to steep especially, less is more. Its not always the case though. Some flavors are stronger than others. Thats why I always do a little research when using a new flavor. Some cant be used above 2% while some are weak enough to go up to 20. I find that, for me, 10-14% is generally my sweet spot.

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by Zeggaeabout 10 years ago
  • I would need a fortune in equipment
  • I would love everything I made
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by hotwingsandcoldbeerabout 10 years agoTobacconist

"It will save you money". I may have but I'm too scared to total this all up to know the truth. In fairness it's entirely by choice and of my own doing. I'm always go big or go home and this turned out to be no different. I will break even soon enough though and then it's almost free after that.

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by Schmigdonabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Yeah, I'm right there with you... I've been DIYing for just over 4 months and I've spend close to 2 grand. It's infuriating but I can't stop! I hear about new flavors and I just need to try them! Then when I go to buy the flavor I can't just have a single flavor order so I load up my cart. "May as well make the shipping cost worth it," I say... I've saved my friends a metric fuck tonne of money though. So they're thrilled....

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by silenttdabout 10 years ago

Completely agree with you on the mixing by weight thing. It seemed so complicated vs mixing by volume. First, it was well I'll just get accurate measurements with an assortment of syringes. Well, VG doesn't always like to cooperate with syringes, and it turns out they are a pain in the ass to keep cleaning. So I thought, "Ah, I know, I'll get a funnel and some graduated cylinders. Sure enough, that's a pain in the ass too and you still end up using the damn syringes. Then the numbers on the syringes started wiping off. Then I started reading posts like "Hey, which of these flavors will eat my syringes.... Fuck it, I'm buying a scale.

Everything is so much easier now. No cleanup. I usually buy my flavors in 4oz bottles and transfer them to 120ml amber dropper bottles. My PG/VG/VG-nic all goes in capped picnic/diner-style ketchup and mustard bottles. Fast, easy, clean, and accurate. Anyone still screwing around with syringes, I implore you to make the switch

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by desesaoabout 10 years ago

Is it better to use weight instead of volume to measure in large amounts?

Right now im making 30ml by volume

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by Prison_Vapeabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Weight is always easier. And the juice often turns out better.

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by iamgr3mabout 10 years ago

>And the juice often turns out better.

This shouldn't happen unless you were terribly inaccurate with volume. Easier I can see. But the method at which you mix juice should have no discernible effect on the flavor of the juice.

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by USN420about 10 years ago

Thought I would be another /u/fizzmustard, /u/botboy141, or /u/redbic inside of three or four weeks... Although hard for me to admit...

I was wrong!

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by redbicabout 10 years ago

I'm not totally sure I belong in that list :P

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by ThirdWorldOrderabout 10 years ago

Is /u/USN420 your alt account?

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by redbicabout 10 years ago

Nope.

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by ExaltedStudiosabout 10 years ago

My biggest mistake was buying a DIY "kit." A scale, VG, Nicotine, and flavoring is all you need to get started.

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by Cheesybeanabout 10 years ago

I thought that I would need some linear algebra or some higher mathematics to crunch the numbers. Little did I know that they have calculators in apps and you can factor in specific weights and all that jazz.

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by kayakerjoshabout 10 years ago

mixing by volume will be a pain. it's not. i mix by the liter (for personal use), it takes 15 minutes and i clean 5 syringes afterwards.

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by Botboy141about 10 years agoGunner's Gold Gourmet E-Juice

Or do the same thing with the same level of accuracy by weight in under 3 minutes with no clean up =).

Nothing wrong with mixing by volume, weight is simply faster/easier, and at higher volume, same level of accuracy.

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by bigolddonkeyabout 10 years ago

This is the truth. I've started mixing 240ml batches and man its so fast by weight. Everything in squeeze bottles so much he only thing to clean is my funnel. 5 minutes per 240ml bottle. I can never go back to volume.

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by Chrononaughtabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Probably when I ordered the ingredients to make this: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/25qqky/ive_got_something_close_bombies_nana_cream_clone/?ref=search_posts

Thinking I was going to be fucking swimming in Nana Cream, when in reality it was exactly nothing like it.

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by Botboy141about 10 years agoGunner's Gold Gourmet E-Juice

Ahhhh that good old days eh?

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by Chrononaughtabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Chyeah, I was so excited then too haha. Just to be crushed...

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by xenoxonexabout 10 years ago

That it would be easy :( It's so not. I do not enjoy making it but I use sub ohm and juice is too expensive in Canada.

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by arickard8843about 10 years ago

Man you don't enjoy making it? I love it when I finally get a good recipe!!

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by xenoxonexabout 10 years ago

I have yet to make anything that's amazed me like 12 monkeys. :(

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by Schmigdonabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Brother you gotta try Tongue Fuck! It's better than O-RangZ! I just find 12 monkeys a bottle of diabetes! Sweet as hell!

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by mentiveabout 10 years ago

I have more juice than I know what to do with, TBH. I have dozens of bottles in my closet, half gone, of God knows what. Lol

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by juice_junkieabout 10 years ago

I heard that 100mg nicotine was so toxic and you have to be so careful mixing juice bc of it. Pretty much that if touched it was gonna burn ur hand off! Wtf? Also that when mixing you have to have a good venting system otherwise when u inhale the fumes of flavors and nicotine it could make you sick! Lol!

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by MrPudding28about 10 years ago

Yeah I thought that too, but it's still a good idea to be careful with it. I know nicotine can be absorbed through the skin, but I'm not sure how fast and I wash off any amount I get in my fingers immediately.

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by beezwacksabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

That it would be super complicated (just making recipes, not coming up with my own).

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