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How does DIY juice really compare to purchased juice?
submitted about 10 years ago by WillyDrumDrumProud Sidebar Reader!

I've got everything from Amazon prime I need BUT I'm just waiting on flavorings from wizardlabs.

I'm excited to make my first batch...how did your first batch of juice taste to you?

Better or worse or the same to previously purchased ejuice?

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by InertiaCreepingabout 10 years agoJust another Moderator

How good is home-baked bread compared to store-bought bread?

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by WillyDrumDrumabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

not that good when I make it :(

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by surfishermanabout 10 years ago

Yeah, with you 100% on that one . Very rare my juice comes out tasting as good as other store bought stuff but i'm an atrocious DIY er so it makes sense.

Now if you got talent for DIY you can make outstanding juice , unfortunately for me, no talent at all , that makes it especially hard .

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by beezwacksabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

That's when you go by the established recipes posted here. Making your own recipes might take awhile, but there's plenty of deliciousness to be had on this sub.

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by SeanMooreabout 10 years ago

I make great bread, I make middling juice. I don't go for complicated things with my juice now, I just do the lazy way and save a bunch of money for my trouble.

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by xxjoexx33about 10 years ago

I bought some juice today because I'm waiting on some vg and right when I took a puff I thought fa bilberry fa cookie and some kind of lemon, I can make it. These juice companies are doing the same thing as us. I prefer my juice over those damn $30 "premium" juice bastards.

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by poochbrahabout 10 years ago

After about a year of DIY, I can honestly say it's ruined premium juices for me.

I can now taste and identify almost all the flavourings used in a pre made juice and it kinda sucks lol

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by acorpcopabout 10 years ago

Personally I find it kinda fun. The kinda sucks is finding just how much of this stuff is just like everything else out there.

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by rendar1970about 10 years ago

I jumped right into diy when I got my vape. Never even ordered a premade juice.

I have tasted juice my friends bought and liked it. But I prefer the stuff I have made myself. When my friends tasted some of my diy they immediately handed me money to make them some. So I guess it's good lol

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by lldanllabout 10 years ago

It really depends on the recipe. If your first batch is following a good recipe you found online then you should be good. If you are just winging it and making up your own flavors it can be much more difficult to create something that tastes good right away.

I did not have any good recipes in mind when I started so I kept it simple and went with single flavoring juices (sour apple was my first). It's a good way to get a feel for each individual flavor and figure out what percentages they taste best at by themselves. After you get a good feel for how each one tastes it's a bit easier to start mixing and matching flavors together to make a much more complex juice.

Just be patient and open to a lot experimenting and you will do great. Good luck! :)

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by WillyDrumDrumabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Yeah I plan on making 5ml samples for the 6 flavors I ordered all in different percentages and shake n vaping them just to see if they're good right off the bat.

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by lldanllabout 10 years ago

That sounds like a great plan to me. Best of luck with the new adventure and hope you make some great tasting juices :)

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by DrKickflip13about 10 years ago

Depends on your ingredients, the recipe, and how you mix. If you go with the well known vendors here, high quality nic etc. then as long as you mix well it'll come out just as good or probably better than most store-bought juice. I've been using a heated magnetic stirrer and that makes a nice even mix...using max VG it would be a little thick to get away with just shaking it.

The only good juice companies I've ever tried have started from someone heavily into DIY. Vapor Chef, BIRD E-JUICE, Bombies to name a few. Screw the companies like Suicide Bunny that know nothing about juice and charge almost $1/ml.

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by WillyDrumDrumabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

YES I actuallly thought about the magnetic stutter thing back to my chemistry days, does it mix max vg well?

My flavorings are pg based but I'm going to be mixing them with only vg because I like clouds and drip alot

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by DrKickflip13about 10 years ago

Yeah man, it's perfect for max VG. You'll notice the layers stay separated until you get enough heat; I like to go with 43C then it gets a nice vortex and everything mixes well. It's a bit of an investment (~$150) but if you're really into DIY I'd highly recommend that and some erlenmeyer flasks. Before I got that setup I was running the bottles under hot water for a while and shaking...it got the job done but this makes it so much easier.

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by KrillinGetsOwnedabout 10 years ago

When I first started DIYing over three years ago, there wasn't so much info online as there is now. In fact i had to learn most of my mixing the hard way. Most of the times i just mixed single flavors, half of them were a hit or miss for me. Nowadays however you can find some amazing recipes that are on par, or even better then commercial juice. There are naturally a shit-ton of bad recipes out there as well, but you'll have to try it out for yourself.

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by TimoTimeabout 10 years ago

I still prefer bought juice but that's because none of my recipes have turned out very flavorful. But that'll soon change with more work and experimentation.

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by flipyourdickabout 10 years ago

The thing about it is that we have access to everything that the juice companies have, it's super easy to get the ingredients. However businesses get loans to get a shit ton of different flavorings and tinker with the recipes, to get it just right. That's the hard part.

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by NOifsANDSorBUTZabout 10 years ago

I started DIY about a month ago and I haven't bought any juice from vendors. I know the flavor profiles I like. Found about 10 recipes I think I would enjoy. Bought the flavors, PG,VG, nic, scale, and a couple of syringes. Probably spent about $150 total.

I would spend about $100 a month on juice. Every sale posted on ECR, I would take advantage of.

Getting a scale saves you so much time. Highly recommend getting one from Amazon as well as your PG and VG.

Edit: Juice I make is incredible, they are all recipes posted on here and ELR.

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by WillyDrumDrumabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Already have a scale for herb.

I'm going to look into mixing by weight, sounds quicker and easier to me

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by pervyweirdoabout 10 years ago

If your scale goes down to .01 gram and doesn't auto shutoff, you're good. Mine does auto shutoff, but I've learned to work around it.

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by Cheesybeanabout 10 years ago

I made the sherbet clone that was posted on here, freakin delicious stuff comparable to unicorn puke by so and so. It was so good in fact I've made like 3 batches of 90ml for storage because I seem to go through it faster than I make it. So once you do find that delicious juice be prepared to make large batches for the full cure effect.

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by WillyDrumDrumabout 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Yes! I'm gonna tinker until I make a good juice I like and then make a big batch so I'll be set for a while!

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by prokreatabout 10 years ago

i havent bought store juices in ages... went in a few months back and tried a bunch and didnt like anything. stuff i was making i enjoyed far more... then again, i am making what i want. of course when fall comes i will get some azeroth from coval.

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by acorpcopabout 10 years ago

I've been doing DIY for over a year now. I haven't bought juice, aside from the occasional bottle when I run into something really new or unique from a commercial vendor, since then. Prior to doing this I've hombrewed beer, I'm an avid foodie, and DIY kinda guy. I can bake my own bread, salt, can & cure food, and reload my own ammo. . .

When I first started, I was mixing mediocre juice. Started off with simple mixes. I'd say it was on par with house juice etc.

Now I get compliments from professional mixers for juice companies and people at B&M's asking me if I am interested in selling juice, which I am not (time, ask me for anything but time).

It's a matter of practice and learning your ingredients. If it doesn't make sense in food, it won't make sense in a juice. I recommend a flavor pairing book for cooking/culinary use like "The Flavor Bible" for ideas, especially when starting off as randomly mixing stuff will amount to random tasting juice. Mixing from highly regarded recipes from here, ECF, VA etc can help you learn how flavors interact with each other. What works & what doesn't.

As for ingredients, most companies out there are using TFA, CAP, FW & increasingly FA. Some Lorann's and some of the odd flavor houses creep in there too. I mostly use FA flavors because I like their strength, realism (in the fruits esp. I heart FA Fuji, White Peach and Strawberry) and due to learning them better than TFA. I am not as well versed in TFA, FW, or CAP although I use them on occasion, esp CAP VC v1.

Technique, just as in cooking, is important. Shifting to mixing by weight has been a big aid in repeatability in my mixes. Note taking, especially using a mixing calculator that lets you save recipes is important. Revisiting mixes and modifying one thing at a time is important. Multi month testing and revising is common in commercial juices.

Steeping is important. Your commercial juice is not freshly mixed. It sits in a warehouse for an undetermined time and is then shipped all over the country in the back of UPS/Fedex/etc. trucks before it gets to your B&M then it sits on the shelf. It's steeped a lot more than people think. Thorough blending is important. A lot of juice companies use commercial blenders & mixers to combine the juice at mixing, vs the DIY method of measuring it all into a bottle and shaking like hell. Time is another factor here. Like I mentioned above, notes are important and it's important to revisit a mix after it's had time to set and mature, for good or for ill. Speed steeping (crock pot, ultrasonic etc) is a shortcut but there is no substitute for simple time.

Lastly, it's DIY. Emphasis on the Y as in yourself. Juice recipes like in cooking are just guides to get you there. You can change them or make substitutions based on availability or personal preference. When you are doing DIY you are doing it for yourself and your tastes. Fuck commercial "for the masses lowest common denominator" juice. If I taste one more fruit cereal and milk juice it is one too many now.

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