Quick favor...
On the DDIY I mentioned working with Pentanol which lends a carbonated fermented flavor to things.
Upon working more with it this morning I think I picked up a cereal grain note.
Can someone who DIYs a killer cereal flavor throw in a tiny bit of TFA Champagne and report back? Maybe 1-3% or so.
Sadly this flavor also lends a grape note but if you have a fruity cereal I think it won't harm the other fruits at all.
Just curious if this helps bring out the cereal grain part of the mix.
I don't vape cereals usually so I have no concept of what they're about. But the ones I've vaped are either lacking the grain taste and 2AP isn't grain tasting at all.
Sure thing. I'm off to ECC right now, but I'll give it a shot when I get back tonight if no one else has.
Wouldn't mind a few perspectives because I'm having trouble discerning if I'm crazy or if there's an interesting addition to be made.
Thanks!
I have a good cereal recipe that I was going to post here but I'll give this a try first.
I have a pretty interesting froot loops I made for a friend (based off the Australian version), I will throw it in at 1.5% see what it does to the mix. Currently I use 3% Cereal Crunch by Flavorah to get the entirety of the straight "cereal aspect" but this could be really nice for bringing more authenticity to the grain underneath the citrus/fruit. If it works I'd like to be able to significantly reduce/eliminate yellow cake as part of the equation .
Not sure if this actually would eliminate yellow cake because that instills a bread/batter flavor whereas this is more of the fermented flavor of the holes in bread.
What is the Australian version?
http://www.kelloggs.com.au/en_AU/froot-loops-product.html#prevpoint - check out the ingredients tab (I love the health standards and way they list ingredients in Australia, so much more informative than the states)
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2014/01/just-what-the-hell-is-in-froot-loops/
Under ingredients. Basically I'm focusing on staying true to the fruit flavors they talk about. Difference between the recipe I'm working on and say most fruit loops is that the citrus area is overly simplified and amounts to being just lemony and slightly orange, I'm trying to incorporate more raspberry, little lime, and looking at the other nuanced fruit flavors that are used in the cereal.
On a earlier version of froot loops listed on the Australia site they talk about using natural cherry flavor (though no longer listed for some reason, maybe they decided to go without it), personally when I tried doing it (using various cherry flavors) I got a slight cough syrup taste so I've stayed away from it...I may think about trying FLV Blackcherry at like ~0.3-0.50% to complete the picture but I'm traumatized from the last time I used it (apparently they reformulated it, got the new one in a few days ago).
Thanks for the links. That was a bit eye opening, notice the American version, sugar is listed first. It was second in the AU version.
Cherry is hard one, always tastes like robitussin. I see though they use raspberry, which is much better.ive stayed away from front loop juice because it always it too much like lemon pledge. Good luck and let me know how turns out.
I tried this in one of my recipes, TFA Champagne at 2% and omitted the graham, and the grape is too apparent to really gauge the graininess. What it did do that I noticed was bring up the "sugar" content in the "milk" making it taste more like "cereal milk". This could be that flavor note you are talking about coming through. So you could be on to something about the pentanol though. If only I had something without the grape flavoring.
Yeah the grape concerns me because 0.5% in that aroma compound is bonkers.
Thanks for trying. I'm going to mix up some 1-Pentanol at 5000PPM in VG next week and if it works for me I'll giveaway a few bottles here for people to try and see if it does anything for their recipes.
It definitely makes a difference of some kind on fruits. As in, taking away some sweetness and adding some ripeness. Maybe it can help balance TFA Strawberry to be more like TFA Ripe Strawberry? No idea, but it is worth a try for those blends that need more reality and body.