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PG and VG storage
submitted about 10 years ago by Cheesybean

So I store my nicotine in the freezer like a good person in an amber Boston bottle. However ive been storing the pg and by in the fridge right below, when I go to mix that VG takes hours it seems to be drawn into my syringe to weigh out. Would I be alright storing those two upstairs at my mix station (two stories in California) it gets sometimes up to 85 F up stairs. Edit: bad bad engrish

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by DrMclovensabout 10 years agoThe Mad Alchemist

VG and PG are not nearly as picky and bitchy as Nicotine is. However, for PG It's best left in the freezer because its still easy to work with as it is high in viscosity.

VG on the other hand is a little different and does take some storage care (but not to the degree of nicotine)

The main problem you will get with VG is the fact that it will want to become very thin (we will go further in detail in a minuet) the best storage is a freezer as well. as PG nor VG will freeze. but it does become a bitchy pain to work with when kept that cold.

The correct storage without making it to hard to work with is as follows:

#1: Keep in cool place

this is because if it is too hot it will become very thin and suck up humidity easier making it permanently thin.

#2: keep it in a stable environment

If the temperature is changing frequently it will slightly (ever so slightly) expand and compress the bottle, It will also create condensation just like a glass of water and will absorb that condensation making it, once again, thinned out .

#3: Closed off to outside air (air tight cap)

This one is pretty easy to achieve, keep the lid on. This is because of humidity in the air getting to it once again, and thinning it out.

thinned VG is about the most you will have as a con of bad storage. but it affects your recipe's more than you would think.

It will also affect the flavor of the ejuice. almost making it taste slightly watered down. or just not as strong. now this may be surprising as VG isn't the flavor carrier, we all know that.

But imagine making 50/50 Blend 50 PG and 50 WATER LOLOL. yeah now imagine the taste difference...now it makes a little more sense no?

hope this helped :)

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by Cheesybeanabout 10 years ago

This man! Two thumbs up sir!

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by DrMclovensabout 10 years agoThe Mad Alchemist

I try.

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by GreatBigPigabout 10 years ago

wouldn't a delay due to thick pg/vg be worth the wait, rather than spoiling in heat?

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by solistusabout 10 years ago

Does PG/VG spoil in heat? I never even considered that I might need to refrigerate mine and I haven't noticed any issues. Nor have I noticed pre-mixed juices spoiling in heat, or been advised to refrigerate them. Heck, I bought my PG online and it wasn't shipped cold, so I assume it wasn't refrigerated when it was sitting around in an Amazon warehouse either.

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by colicababout 10 years ago

They don't spoil fast enough for you to worry. If you stored gallons and they sat around for a decade then sure but otherwise you're good.

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by GreatBigPigabout 10 years ago

I have heard of people cooling pg/vg in a freezer, but haven't yet. Ii have seen a few online references that suggest the liquid be kept out of sunlight for long periods of time. I just place mine in a cupboard.
I would love to know more on this myself. :-)

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by gremlinjuiceabout 10 years ago

Find a coffee warmer thing and when you are ready to mix, pour some VG into a coffee cup and put it on the warmer. Give it a few minutes and you're ready to go.

Like this one for example

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by ThirdWorldOrderabout 10 years ago

I keep my PG/VG in my garage which is in around the 90s during the summer. Haven't noticed an iota of difference in taste or quality

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by rexcannonabout 10 years ago

Keep your main supply in the freezer or fridge and keep a usable amount in these or something similar,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5138SO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

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by on_a_mooseabout 10 years ago

There is no reason to refrigerate base VG or PG at all, ever. They're both stable at room temperature.

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by Cheesybeanabout 10 years ago

Thanks for the feedback everyone I've decided to just pull them about before mixing to get the VG up to room temp while I'm away at class. If that works I'll go back to that method otherwise that warmer idea wouldn't be a terrible investment because I could use it to cure the juice as well.

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by slyburgerabout 10 years ago

How about not drawing it up through a syringe? Just pour it in from the back end with your finger covering the nozzle.

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by Cheesybeanabout 10 years ago

I like you, thinking outside the box. Although I'm afraid I would cause a nasty mess on my mix station. Plus getting those small numbers perhaps it just needs some practice. Next batch I'll try it out and come back with either a sad story or more gushing from your simple and wonderful idea.

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by slyburgerabout 10 years ago

Its a lot easier than it sounds, and i dont have a steady hand. With cold VG you dont even need to block the nozzle as it wont seep through even with a 25ml syringe. I do the same with my PG and nic concentrate. If you happen to add a little too much, you can just let a little out to get the correct measurement. Keep the vaper towel handy to mop up any spills.

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by sodakdavealmost 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Switch to mixing by weight and never use a syringe again. It's amazing how much easier it is! Just put your PG and VG into some squeeze bottles and go.

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by Justin429about 10 years ago

I keep them in a refrigerator in their bulk containers, and also in 1/2 liter containers that are always filled. When it comes time to mix, I generally warm the VG in a pot of hot water on the stove, only enough that it draws easily into the syringe. If it sloshes around like PG instead of honey, its warm enough to draw.

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by Wo0d643about 10 years ago

I keep mine in the freezer until its time to open a new bottle and if don't use it all I move it to the fridge. I don't mind the wait on it being cold and thick. I make a months supply at a time.

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by VapeClarityabout 10 years ago

VG and PG by itself is stable in room temp. It is when nicotine or flavoring is added that heat becomes an issue.

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by JustSayNoToDiacetylabout 10 years ago

Dow chemical says VG is stable at room temp in a sealed (airtight) container for 2 years. It is stable in a used container for about a year.

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