I often see DIYers refer to commercial ejuice as premium, usually accompanied with quotes. I propose that we start referring to them as commercial. That is all.
I don't know if this will work, but I'll put effort into it. So, DIY, house, then commercial, in order...
If we start referring to it this way then it might catch on. r/diy_ejuice is a trendsetter :-P
We are? Do you think we can set the trend of wearing a damn belt to young men?
I propose we call it sweetener + pg
You know how going to restaurants it tastes good because they load on fat, salt, and sugar? That's how i feel about commercial juice.
After making my own, that shit tastes way too sweet to me.
> You know how going to restaurants it tastes good because they load on fat, salt, and sugar?
Maybe if the only places you go to eat are waffle house and mcdonald's....wtf
You obviously have never worked in a kitchen.
I always thought 93 octane was a waste of money.
If your car doesn't require it, it is a waste. If you have a high compression motor then it's required.
True Story. My WRX requires 91 octane, because turbo.
My standard impreza is fine on regular unleaded though.
Nothing wrong with 93 octane if it really is 93 octane , problem is 93 octane is really 87 and thats bullshit.
I'm sick of the "we only use the finest ingredients " you don't say , of course you do , what is the alternative , we use only the worst ingredients .
Man, how do you guys vape 93 octane? That's hardcore.
but but but, my juice is "boutique" premium =)
"Artisan" seems popular these days ;)
Your juice may be "boutique premium" but my juice is Organic Cruelty Free Fair Trade and mixed in the vacuum of space for the ultimate in safety. Bring it on FDA.
I think you would enjoy /u/thevaporking
Just curious.. so what defines commercial? Remember, you're making history here ;)
There's something to be said for manufacturers who do pump out juices of consistent quality with rich flavor, and a little more presentation than a cheap plastic bottle with a flimsy paper sticker on the side.
It's ridiculous that every juice maker labels themselves as "premium," especially in cases where it is a patently false claim, but I'm not going to pretend that there aren't a few manufacturers which stand out a bit from the crowd. The "premium" label should be earned by winning over fans of your juice, not copy/pasted onto every page of your website to impress the gullible.
Any old schmuck can mix these ingredients together, put it into a cheap bottle with a shitty label, and try to sell 30 ml of it for $21.99. When I buy a "premium" juice, I'm doing it because I know exactly what I'm getting every time I buy another bottle.
Lol that's bullshit. I bought premium juice from a vendor for 4 months. EVERY BOTTLE was different. But a cheap plastic bottle was consistent every time for half the price.
Make 30 ml of juice for $1 and put it in a $3 bottle, wholesale it for $10 and retail it for $22. Then tell everyone on instagram that the juice was made for competition exhaling. Honestly, Retail/Premium, House, Bathtub, DIY- it's all the same ejuice- some people just have better ingredients or recipes. I've had "house" juice brands from stores here in Southern California that put a lot more effort into it than well funded brands (looking at you cosmic fog, $22 for a 30ml of Flavorwest watermelon and menthol)
You have pretty much summed it up. However I would add that some markup is justified. You have the initial investment of the supplies but I think some people forget that there are other business costs too. Product liability insurance, web design, legal, marketing, etc. Some people seem to think that commercial ejuice is 10000% profit (im not saying you do) but they don't take into consideration the amount of money it takes to run a business aside from purchasing ingredients.
Having said that, some of the markups and marketing schemes make me cringe. It's kinda reminds me of "tactical" in the firearms industry.
I sell commercially and am well aware of the costs involved to do things correctly. There is very little room to argue selling juice for more than ~$15 per 30 ml besides "because I can and people pay it". The beatings will continue until consumers stop buying overpriced e-liquid.