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Bottle agitator suggestions?
submitted about 10 years ago by flipwich

Don't laugh: I'm getting tennis elbow because of DIY. Seems like I am shaking a lot of bottles when experimenting, which is causing my elbow to start getting the tennis. Who knew DIY is so physically-taxing? :/

I know of the McGuyver method of jury-rigging a reciprocal saw to act as an agitator for bottles. I actually went to the hardware store to check out reciprocal saws to purchase, but thought: "there's gotta be a more elegant solution than strapping a bottle to a saw". I also know about the do-it-yourself PC fan-as-mixer, but I don't mix in beakers... I do have a small magnetic mixer, but the magnet is not strong enough to spin the bar in my max-VG liquids.

So, my question is: can you recommend a purpose-built liquid agitator? I've tried doing my own searches but have either come up with mixers for paint (wall/house paint) or expensive laboratory equipment. Is there something that can facilitate shaking up 30ml (or smaller) bottles that isn't so expensive?

EDIT: from a couple of the comments, I refined my searching and found this on amazon. It looks pretty good, except that I'm not sure if it will fit 30ml bottles. It looks like even some of the smaller nail polish bottles might have trouble fitting into the harness. Check the review video here. Can anyone be the guinea pig for this? hehe

EDIT2: looks like the PROshaker might be able to securely hold 30ml bottles. Here's another review by a model-builder who is using this machine to shake his paints.

It seems that the PROshaker mixes without creating air bubbles. Sounds good to me.

EDIT3: Looks like if you have child-resistant dropper caps, they won't fit into the collar... maybe regular droppers or even just flush caps would suffice?

EDIT4: hmm, after talking with /u/dapperbastard a bit on the idea of a vortexer, I'm thinking this might be the best way to go. Reason being: I tend to mix my experiments in various sized bottles, not only in 30ml standard boston rounds. I even use unicorn bottles. This would make the Proshaker unusable for a lot of the bottles that I utilize. Using the vortexer, on the other hand, is totally independent of size of vessel. If I can source one cheap on ebay, my elbow will thank me.

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by dapperbastardabout 10 years ago

What you're really looking for is a used vortexer. It'll last a whole lot longer than some Chinese-made nail polish shaker, and can generally be found cheaply on eBay if you lurk for a couple weeks. I think I paid $45 shipped for mine.

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by flipwichabout 10 years ago

Sheeeit, that might be the way to go for me...

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by dapperbastardabout 10 years ago

With any of these, the best way to determine a protocol that gives you good mixing is to take your base (100% VG, or 80-20, or whatever your final juices are at) with a few drops of food dye, and see what it takes to fully incorporate it in the bottles you're doing the mixing in. With the vortexer, it'll be pretty quick, but it'll be hands-on for each bottle. With the rotary shaker, it'll probably be a half hour or more, but you don't have to be personally-involved.

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by flipwichabout 10 years ago

So I just saw a couple of vids on youtube concerning vortexers and I'm wondering: how would you fasten a bottle onto the vortexer? I'm guessing that simple rubber bands will not do...

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by dapperbastardabout 10 years ago

Another option (also available on eBay -- that one's not so cheap, but again, I picked one up for under $50 at one point) is a rotary tube mixer. May actually work better than a vortexer for max VG, since it simulates continually upending the bottle. However, back in grad school, I would vortex pretty viscous solutions with good results, so I'd still recommend the vortexer first.

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by abdadaabout 10 years ago

These used to be popular a few years ago. I bought a $9 import version on eBay and it worked for 3 or 4 months before I destroyed it (too many bottles).

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by PriceZombieabout 10 years ago

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by BleuXShadoWabout 10 years ago

We use the robart one for 10 and 15ml bottles. It's not much use for sizes much bigger. I'm really really surprised at how long it's lasted. I've been saying it's probably gonna burn out for the past two months lol, I even have a backup one for when it dies. It works pretty well though. We still give it a lil shake afterwards though just to make sure it's nice and homogenized. I need to rig up something for bigger bottles. I've been thinking about it for a while but have just been too busy

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by TheGardenSharkabout 10 years ago

http://www.amazon.com/Robart-Manufacturing-Paint-Shaker-Powered/dp/B0006O7M9W

this one?

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by flipwichabout 10 years ago

Found this one on amazon... it might fit 30ml bottles, but I'm not sure. Description says that it "Rotates bottle 360 at over 500RPM". Now, if it merely rotates the bottle, wouldn't that kind of be like a centrifuge and actually separate the solution?

EDIT: nevermind, the arm is off-center on the flywheel, so as it spins, it actually rotates in an elliptical path, making what appears to be a nice shaking motion. Video review is here.

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by NoImRocketabout 10 years ago

I have a cheap random orbital buffer made by Coleman I bought a few years back. I have a better random orbital now, so I mount my juice bottles to the Coleman and use it to mix stuff up. Works great.

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by Errckover 9 years ago

What are small to medium sized commercial juice makers using? They have to be mixing 1L minimum. Clean up can't be fun.

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by clint404about 10 years ago

Rare earth magnet glued to a 12v PC fan and a stirring bar in your mixing vessel. Mount the fan to something sturdy and sit that beaker right over the fan. Your welcome.

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by BleuXShadoWabout 10 years ago

would you like a stirbar? I will send you one if you want. Well, if you paid shipping.

Edit: LOL I'm dumb, I thought you were using a magnet as your stirbar :P Offer is still up if you actually use a stirplate. I have a few stirbars I am never going to use, I will just pass them forward to others in need. I have a couple nice rare earth magnet ones I'm not going to use out of the bunch

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by PierGarrettinniabout 10 years ago

I'm interested, I'll PM

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by szflowabout 10 years ago

Pretty sure he said he knew of that but didn't mix in beakers... :-\

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by streethackerabout 10 years ago

Ive made a magnetic stirrer out of rare earth magnets and a PC Fan..It sucks in max VG...If anyone has any better ideas please let us know! I was thiking of a dremel with an attachment?

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by ExaltedStudiosabout 10 years ago

Here's the dremel/drill attachment I use: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00548CL1Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_7&smid=A37SSOMGWCKVU1

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by ExaltedStudiosabout 10 years ago

When i get home, i will post you a link to the drill attachment I've been using. Also, I'm also curious if anyone knows a way to improve the DIY stirrer for max VG. As of now, it's useless besides mixing bases

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by charlieremembersabout 10 years ago

I was drunk and taped a bottle to a handheld kitchen mixer attachment. Worked really well.

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by dwellerofcubesabout 10 years ago

Hitachi magic wand. Keeps the lady pretty happy, too. Two birds stoned at once.

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by thesnakeinwoodysbootabout 10 years ago

I am the liquor.

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by tent405about 10 years ago

Duct tape them to the spokes of your wheel and go for a bike ride.

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by flipwichabout 10 years ago

Haha, that would be a centrifuge which would split the ingredients apart instead of mixing them.

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by crosstown_rebelabout 10 years ago

I use a reciprocating saw and it shakes up juice just fine. Use some cable ties to get the juice snug on the blade and fire that baby up.

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by onmywaydownnowabout 10 years agoMixologist

Dude that proshaker looks awesome. I wish we could see a 30ml bottle in it.

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by vapingrammyabout 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I use a milk frother. 7 dollars on Amazon.

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by jaydedrag0nabout 10 years ago

why not use this? It'll take all your bottles, you don't have to hold it, its under $50 and you won't need to buy anything else

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by surffishmanabout 10 years ago

I ran into one dude who jogs miles every day , he straps the juice bottles to his legs lol.

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by NewWorldDestroyerabout 10 years ago

I use a heated foot bath. Not sure how well it works because that is all I use and have nothing to compare it to besides hand shaking.

Anyone know if the uv light kills flavor?

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by flipwichabout 10 years ago

When "steeping" juices, it's recommended to keep the bottles in a dark cupboard. This is to prevent UV light from affecting the liquid. Also, it's recommended to keep your liquids in amber glass bottles to protect them from UV light. I'm not sure if this is for the flavors of the liquid or to protect the nicotine from degrading, though...

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