Hey all,
Just wanted to share these here just incase you were looking for the msds for some of the more popular v2 flavorings. If you would like the msds for any other flavors that aren't already in their website's zip folder, go ahead and request it here. I'll upload them to the google drive folder on Monday.
Current Flavors I've uploaded the MSDS For:
- Cinnamon Danish Swirl v2 (note: this doesn't say v2 on the msds but I've confirmed it is, as it's product # is CA-1409)
- Vanilla Custard v2
- Sugar Cookie v2
- Cake Batter
- Simply Vanilla
- Peaches & Cream v2
- Double Chocolate v2
Just wondering but what is the point of these data sheets? How does it relate to mixing juices? Sorry if it sounds stupid but I'm fairly new but interested in making my own juice soon.
No problem! MSDS docs for flavorings is where you can find the specific gravity. Those who mix by weight sometimes like to know exactly how many grams of a flavoring is in exactly 1ml of volume.
Generally speaking you can use the default 1g/ml (specific gravity of 100% PG) and be just "fine" with it, but if you want to really get your recipes as accurate as possible and not end up with extra or too little volume than you want to obtain the specific weights of each flavoring and plug them in.
For instance, way back I used 1g/ml for everything and one of my flavors I used was Capella's Green Apple flavoring. Every time I mixed up a juice with Capella's Green Apple I noticed in comparison to my other recipes it always took up much more of the bottle. This is because Capella's Green Apple flavoring is considerably off from the default 1g/ml. In this case the specific gravity of it is 0.9182/ml. This means for every 0.9182g of flavoring added it's 1ml of volume. Whereas if we stick with the default of 1g/ml we're going to end up with 8.2% more flavoring than we originally intended.
Is this going to be the end of the world? Nope, if your recipe is designed around it it's just fine. Just know that the extra volume will end up lowering your intended nicotine level, increasing your PG %, and decreasing your VG percentage by marginal amounts. You won't taste or notice much of a difference so I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you're just starting out.
Edit: Just incase the above math was confusing here's an extra example. We're going to use cap's green apple again as our one flavor for this recipe.
Lets say we want to mix up a 3mg 80VG/20PG 30ml bottle of our green apple recipe. Our recipe uses approx. 5% of Capella's Green Apple and we're mixing by weight and assuming that it weighs approx. 1g/ml (default in calculator).
So we add in our nic & pg and what not.
Then we add 1.5 grams of green apple (5% of 30ml = 1.5ml). Now what we ACTUALLY ended up with volume wise here is 1.63ml despite only adding 1.5 grams. Meaning we now have .13ml extra yield in our end mixture making the bottle actually 30.13ml not 30.0. This will offset our nicotine level, vg%, and pg%. Again VERY marginally in this case, not a huge deal.
BUT when you're using a recipe that has a bunch of different flavorings those little marginal differences can add up to say a half ml of extra juice. Those differences might be offset as well by flavorings that weigh say 1.06g/ml. Point being, you don't really know what you're actually yielding unless you obtain the specific gravity for each flavoring you use in a recipe.
Thank you so much for typing all that out. Just wondering but can for example extra flavouring hurt?I guess it depends on what you're mixing especially with delicate flavours but does it really create that much of a difference?
You'll be fine. Very small difference.
Just make sure if you're mixing by weight to put in the proper weight for nicotine (depends on what base concentration you're using) and VG. Those are important to put in. The flavorings are small differences. And PG is always 1g/ml