My mother-in-law wants to vape to quit smoking, but has an allergy/sensitivity to PG. I can't seem to find suppliers that she can vape.
Also, any ideas on how to thin the resulting liquid? She probably will be a tank user only.
And yes, I did search and sidebar. If I mussed it, I blame being on mobile.
TFA has a small selection of PG-free flavorings, but I think Medicine Flower is the most popular for PG-free. Just a word of warning: MF is friggin' expensive! Their flavors are a lot more concentrated than most other manufacturers, so at least there's an upside (they're delicious too, but way too expensive for me to use.) I think Inawera has some PG-free flavorings too, but don't quote me on that. I'm sure some others who are more familiar with PG-free flavorings will have better info to add.
As far as thinning without PG, you're kind of limited to distilled water or 0.9% saline. Unfortunately there's only so much you can add before it screws up the flavor and vapor production, and it may still not be thin enough (I add saline to a lot of my juices to enhance flavor, but never more than 2% at the most.) One thing to consider though is that a lot of the newer tanks (Aspire Nautilus and Atlantis, Kanger SubTank, etc) are designed to work with thicker liquids, so you may not have to worry too much about it if she goes with one of those tanks.
I'm not personally a big fan of "max VG" liquids, but a lot of other people are and will be able to add their tips and tricks for working with it. In the meantime, Open Source Vapor is a completely PG-free line of eliquids that you might be interested in trying out; I've tried a couple of their flavors and they were pretty good. Just a suggestion if you order from them: I highly recommend getting the 1.5x or 2x flavor option! They use all-natural flavorings, which tend to be pretty light on flavor. Also, they mix-to-order, so they definitely improve if you let them sit for a week or so before vaping.
Lots of good stuff here, thanks!
I may try open source, but she does need nic, just a stupid low amount - I was seriously going to start her with a .5, since her smoking style is so light.
EDIT: they might be exactly what I need, at least while I get set up. Now to shop tanks and batteries...
i know nude nic has a lot of vg based flavors. i think most of their flavors are vg
I checked out their nicotine, and planned to buy there. Don't know how I missed flavors.
I blame the phone.
I have a serious allergy to PG. I can't touch it at all, so I make my own. It's incredibly easy to make. for 3 mg liquid, just mix 3 ml 100 mg nic solution, 87 ml vg and 10 ml distilled water. It cost less than 1/3 of buying it and you have complete control of the flavors and composition. Change concentrations as needed. As common and cheap as the materials are, you might as well make your own. If you can make tea, you can make e-juice.
There isn't a way to thin out vg.. But you can get good tanks that will handle it. I recommend the Arctic tank. I'm not familiar with venders that sell 100% vg. Just a word of advice.. Keep away from all eliquid that says max vg. Generally it's 70-90% vg.
Usually when people state it's max VG, it means that there's as much as they could possibly add. That's how I interpret it, anyway. Although, an easier way would be to just list your PG/VG no matter what kind of mixing you're doing.
Yeah, that's how I interpret max VG as well...maximum VG content minus PG-based flavoring/nicotine. I noticed a lot of manufacturers don't advertise VG:PG ratio probably not to give anyone an idea as to the flavor percentage. Might make it harder to clone that way.
"Max VG" is kind of meaningless, and it's not really anything beyond a marketing ploy. Some "Max VG" juice really is mostly VG and super-thick; that makes it primarily a dripper-only option (Smax comes to mind.) Others are the same ratios as "normal" juice, (Grimm Green himself stated that Epiclouds is about 30/70, even though it's a "Max VG" juice.)
"Max VG" doesn't tell anybody anything, and I wish all manufacturers would just list the actual PG/VG ratio on the bottle. If people want Max VG, they'll still gravitate towards juice with a high VG ratio anyway, so it doesn't really make any sense to leave the ratio off the bottle.