So as I dive into the diy I find I like the simpler mixes. Even when I started vaping I found the simpler liquids more enjoyable. The more complex the juice the more muddled it got. Maybe it's just my pallet but I enjoy mixes like orange dragon fruit or strawberry pear. Is it just me or are there other people out there that like the simpler things in life?
Most of my ADV mixes are no more than 2 flavors. I almost kind of want that "muddiness" when I'm buying someone else's juice, because I think "I can't tell what's in this, but it's delicious." But when I mix my own, I want to be able to taste everything I put in.
It's entirely possible to have a recipe with only 2-3 distinguishable flavors to it, yet the recipe calls for 6-7 flavor concentrates. I like a good simple flavor profile every now and again, but that doesn't always translate to a simple recipe.
I think that some flavorings that are complex in themselves make for wonderful vapes when paired with another flavoring alike. I do agree that I tend to like the more simple (1-3 flavors) recipes better than the more complex (3-10 flavors).
There was a strawberry cream recipe that was posted a while back that is a perfect example of this. I think it was fizz but I may be mistaken. He used two flavors and created a wonderfully complex juice.
Probably Mustard Milk. Excellent recipe.
Also gets my vote for best recipe name of 2015.
I love complex. I don't sell a juice with less than 5 flavors. My most complex blend I sell is 14 flavors...Most are around 6-8 flavors with 2-3 additives as needed.
I think something to keep in mind is that you don't have to mix countless flavorings for a juice to feel "complex".
What I mean is for example you might come up with an Apple Pie recipe that has 8 different ingredients and say it is complex. But it just so happens that these flavorings at these ratios are the recipe for FlavourArt's Apple Pie concentrate, which would be just as complex but using only 1 flavoring and then people would call it simple.
I'm not saying FA Applie Pie is good enough on its own but you get the idea. In the end it doesn't matter one bit how many concentrates you used in a mix, only how good it tastes.
Absolutely and I can't emphasize this enough.
The reason most of my recipes tend to contain so many flavors is that they are used in very small percentages to add a chemical that's missing or unbalanced from other flavors.
For example, in my apple pie recipe, I use 2 apple pie flavors, one apple flavor, pear to accent, another accent for the baked fruit flavor and then accent the pie crust just a tiny bit with some graham cracker.
There's no sense using 4 different tangerines in a tangerine juice if all the tangerines have the same or similar chemical make ups.
I fall between simple and this. I don't always have the time to get as in depth as you, I think my more complex mixes fall in around 8 flavors with 1 or 2 additives. I love the complex flavors, but keep some simple ones around to enjoy while the more delicately balanced ones steep and mature,.
Hey random question, and you know a lot more than I do. I recently just put together a large order for flavors that has yet to get here. I've been organizing the recipes I've found (a few of yours too, so thanks) to get ready for a big mixing day. Of course as I'm going through I've realized I've forgotten some stuff. I bought flavorahs peach and tfa juicy peach. Some recipes call for regular tfa peach, could I get away with subbing one I have? From my understanding all flavorah is much more potent so I'll need less. I'm thinking like a third of the amount? Ish?
TFA Juicy Peach is the only TFA Peach flavor I have tried. Can't make a reasonable recommendation if a juice is actually calling for TFA Peach. I believe it's a bit weaker than TFA Juicy Peach but in the end all that matters is whether or not you like the flavor.
Play with it and have fun!
Ah alright, thanks anyway! I'll have a great time, I'm sure it won't ruin the recipe by trying out a different type, you're right as long as I like it who cares. This will be my first chance getting to experiment, I'm super pumped. Was just following recipes to a t before.
I do like simple, but to me strawberry tastes more like strawberry with a dash of blackberry and raspberry. Custard tastes more like custard with some sweet cream and Bavarian and more vanilla. Simple is good and all but I find it usually takes more than those one or two flavors to really shine.
i have tons a 1-3 flavor mixes but i made a mothers milk clone last week and i fin love it!
Did you throw together the clone or did you use someone recipe? I've been told mm is good, and I don't wanna buy it. Would rather make a clone, and try it that way.
In the beginning it's best to start simple but as the years have progressed, I use more flavors. (depending on the recipe) Steeping usually helps with the muddled flavor. I don't care what anyone says, steeping matters. Of course some recipes don't need it but most of mine do. I've had no luck with heating/etc to expedite steeping either. It's merely a waiting game.
I really enjoy a complex vape. For my own mixes I like to layer flavors. For example, I'll use two or three of the same flavor or flavor profile ( tpa strawberry, and tpa strawberry ripe, or tpa French vanilla, fa Madagascar vanilla, and cap vanilla custard v2 ). I think it keeps the flavors both simple, and adds more complexity.
It's hard to say x number of flavorings is simple and x number of flavorings is complex, it simply doesn't work that way. A "simple mix" with two flavorings can be a group of a dozen different aroma molecules mixed together to achieve that basic flavor, while a "complex mix" with say 5 flavors could actually simply be 5 basic aroma molecules mixed together.
Taking your post at face value I like both types of mixes. Sometimes "simple" is refreshing but sometimes it can be too tiring , thats when those muddled up mixes that have no defining character but just simply taste good come in handy, it takes longer for your senses to fatigue from them.
Less is more. I feel like some of the recipes I've read on here and other places are just complicated for the sake of being complicated. My juice philosophy is to spend more time finding the best flavors possible and putting as few of those flavors together to find whatever flavor profile I'm after.
I've been hobby cooking for several years now and I've found that simple is almost always good, and simple is not easy. The tendency is to put more flavors into something instead of highlighting fewer flavors that work together well. Once there are too many flavors competing you can't appreciate them individually.