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TFA Butterscotch advice
submitted over 10 years ago by SmooDiver87

Im having some trouble figuring out how to work with this flavour and would like some advice.

The first thing i did when I got it was make a 5% dilution in VG and steep; after 2 days it was awful; 2 weeks and its not much better; a very strong bitter caramel taste comes through. I also steeped some TFA pie crust the same way, it was completely unbearable on its own after 2 days, but after 2 weeks I can tell what sort of things to mix it with to work around its baseline flavour. However with the butterscotch Im still not convinced I can work with it.

The next thing I did was dilute my mix down 5X into some kind of cookie recipe (something like 2% FA cookie, 5% TFA white chocolate (love this stuff) and 1% CAP vanilla). After a few days steeping the taste has got better but even at this dilution (now 1%) it was coming through as a powerful base of burnt caramel.

2 days ago I then diluted this entire cookie mixture out by 2 into 10% TFA Bavarian cream (totalling 5% bavarian cream) with a few extra drops of FA cookie and a drop of AP (I have no reason for adding it, Im just a little obsessed with it).

So now at 0.5% butterscotch in a mix dominated by other flavours there is still an overpowering burned caramel taste; its much better than before but still ruining my recipe.

I have looked at how others are using this flavour and the majority seem to go for anywhere between 2-10%; do I have a defective batch? Do i just not like this flavour? Should I try sweeteners (TFA marshmallow, cotton candy, brown sugar double) or some additives?

Any advice is very much appreciated as always.

TL;DR

TFA butterscotch is ruining my flavour party, I want it here but its just being too loud and the neighbours are complaining. what do?

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by Krauzberover 10 years ago

I haven't worked with tfa butterscotch myself, but have you tried airing it out overnight?

Other than that I'm stumped for ideas when you've already gone down to 0.5%. You might ha e a faulty bottle, contact your supplier or the manufacturer and see if they'll hear you out, maybe give you some pointers.

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

Yeah it was stepped topless for a few days, even heat steeped for a few hours at one point, but no change. Im not sure its the steeping thats the problem anymore, but rather a faulty batch like you said.

I wont be contacting the company though as I have had enough headaches with them to even bother adding more complaints. I will just write this one off as a learning experience and try other flavours.

cheers for the reply!

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by ThirdWorldOrderover 10 years ago

Your best bet is to change Butterscotch manufacturers. I find TFAs to be quite bad compared to FA or FW. I would give the edge to FlavorWest's Butterscotch as being the best I've tried.

You may want to try Caramel instead of Butterscotch if you don't want a dominating flavor. Overall, Caramel just plays well with others. You could also mix caramel and butterscotch as well

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

I have actually noticed this myself. Im relatively new to DIY and so I have been trying a range of companies for their flavours; I leaned heavily on TFA due to the praise they receive from other people, but honestly my favourite flavours so far have all come from CAP and FW. I know its all subjective and only ploughing more cash into more flavours will get me the answers i want. but I will definitely be trying more FW flavours and maybe even some others.

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by simpleone234over 10 years agoMixologist

/u/ThirdWorldOrder is pretty much spot on. While I don't enjoy the vast majority of FW flavorings, their butterscotch and bavarian cream are very good. Caramel candy from TPA also might be the flavoring youre searching for.

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by Davesnothearover 10 years agoMixologist

TFA Butterscotch by itself just isn't that great. I am working on a butterscotch pudding and use a mix of butterscotch flavors. I'll post the recipe I have atm even though it's still wip.

Butterscotch Pudding (Work in Progress)

Ingredients|Ing %| :---|---:|---:|---:|---: VaporsTek Nicotine|3.00%|18.0|0.932 g|0.900 ml PG|17.50%|105.0|5.439 g|5.250 ml VG|60.00%|360.0|22.482 g|18.000 ml Butterscotch (FW)|4.00%|30.0|1.554 g|1.500 ml Butterscotch (TFA)|4.00%|30.0|1.554 g|1.500 ml Vanilla Swirl (TFA)|2.00%|12.0|0.622 g|0.600 ml Vanilla Custard (Flavorah)|4.00%|24.0|1.243 g|1.200 ml Sweet Cream (TFA)|1.00%|6.0|0.311 g|0.300 ml Salty Butter Balls (FW)|0.50%|3.0|0.155 g|0.150 ml Butterscotch (FlavorArt)|1.00%|6.0|0.311 g|0.300 ml Marshmallow (FlavorArt)|1.00%|6.0|0.311 g|0.300 ml

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

Man oh man do I need me some salty butter balls. Chefs chocolate salty balls recipe is now on the cards. Thanks for the recipe advice man, much appreciation.

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by Davesnothearover 10 years agoMixologist

Lol. Its potent stuff. Let me know how chefs chocolate salty balls taste.

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by COYFCover 10 years ago

8% FA Maple syrup + 8% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream for butterscotch is fantastic!

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

Im buying both of these right now as that sounds amazing

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by Botboy141over 10 years agoMixing like a mad man...

What OHM/Wattage are you running at? 90% this is the problem. Anytime I've fired up Butterscotch over ~40watts or so it tastes extremely burnt.

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

I vape at 50W minimum. Im back to mechanicals for a while so i have a 0.8 Ohm build- and it does taste a little better.

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by turkourjurbsover 10 years agoFrugivore

Butterscotch has been one of my primary ADVs since I started vaping. I like TFA's best at 15%. I tried FW and found it really buttery but good. So I mix the two 50/50 and do it at 15% Keep in mind I'm vaping it in single coil protank variants. I tried dripping it and yes, it's too strong at that ratio but I love the flavor. I can't say why it doesn't work for you, everybody's different.

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by SmooDiver87over 10 years ago

It may just be that I don't like this particular flavour, its all subjective. I wont be using it anymore so Ill probably give it away to my local B&M, they are looking into making their own juice line and they might like it.

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