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Subbing INW fruits?
submitted over 10 years ago by guntherslunt

Hi all, Canadian DIY'er pretty new to mixing here. So far I've done a few of the clone recipes here with great luck.

I'm planning on mixing up a Mother's Milk clone that calls for CAP Sweet Strawberry v2 and TFA Dragonfruit, but I only have INW Wild Strawberry and INW Dragonfruit. Also, same situation with Sweet Cream, I only have FA Vienna Cream.

Would it be acceptable to swap these out at perhaps half percantages? INW and FA flavours are much stronger than TFA/CAP, I've been told. Thanks for the help!

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by _Laughmore_over 10 years ago

It won't taste the same, but whether that's acceptable is a question only you can answer.

The only way to know for sure is to have experience with both the original flavor and the substitute you want to use.

Sorry to sound like a dick. There are always excetions to a rule of thumb so take any wisdom offered with skepticism.

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by gunthersluntover 10 years ago

You don't sound like a dick at all. Absolutely reasonable and true. Was just hoping for a very rough guideline. Never actually worked with INW flavours, picked them up after hearing good things.

I'll likely just start with super low percentages. Always easier to add more than dilute.

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by _Laughmore_over 10 years ago

Keep some unflavored base around at your target nic level - diluting can be convenient depending on the recipe. Pour off a bit and add base.

Approaching each flavor with an open mind and fresh taste buds is the way to go, if I had experience with INW fruit I'd offer a baseline. Happy mixing :)

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by matt-iceover 10 years ago

As far as my experience goes, you'll find recipes calling for x number of drops per 10ml. Follow them, because even at 0,5% it destroyed any other flavour I've had in my mix

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by cjinctover 10 years ago

Obviously, the flavor is going to be a bit (or a lot) different but I sub out for INW all the time. For me, I don't think I've ever used INW in a multi-flavor recipe higher than 3% and even that is pushing it.

So, if what you're mixing calls for Strawberry at 10%, I would not use INW at 5%. I'd start at maybe 2 and work up if needed

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by skiddlzninjaover 10 years agoFrugivore

But CAP is only slightly less concentrated than INW, so he may be safe cutting the strawberry in half. The TFA dragonfruit, on the other hand, I would cut to 1/3 or 1/4 original value. TFA sweet cream is pretty potent(compared to other TFA flavors), so I'd do a 5-3 ratio for sweet cream-vienna cream. Over 5%, cut it by at least half.

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by The_Perrycoxover 10 years agoPâtissier

I don't mean to come off as crass, or rude.....but do you not have a large selection of Capella flavors? I saw you mention earlier they are almost as strong as INW and FA. With the exception of a few, I find this FAR from true. Just my two cents and an honest question.

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by skiddlzninjaover 10 years agoFrugivore

I own 15 CAP flavors, and I find their concentration closer to INW than TFA for all but a few flavors

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by tubasectionover 10 years ago

Don't sub INW Wild Strawberry!! I made this mistake over the weekend, subbing it for TFA Strawberry. You know how Wild Strawberry is super delicious because it kind of tastes earthy and natural or something (I'm bad at this if you can't tell)? Well that kinda green flavor becomes really really noticeable when you mix it in a flavor that just wants the sweet fruity.

Actually, I kind of want you to do it so you can explain it better than I just did. But most importantly, it just doesn't work very well.

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by wurzleover 10 years ago

INW wild strawberry has a very distinct taste, and cannot be used as a substitute for any other strawberry flavor I've tasted. It is also very strong, and I tend to use it at 1% or less in my mixes.

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by flipwichover 10 years ago

Seconded on not using INW Wild Strawberry. CAP Sweet Strawberry v2 is a more upper-note strawberry. It does taste true to a strawberry, but the INW is much more pungent, much more "thick"... it almost borders on a sort of "spoiled" or "rotten" note and, in my opinion, much more perfume-y. The CAP strawberry is bright, sweet, almost candy-like. They would not be suitable to sub each other.

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