DIY juice always tasting "dry"

submitted over 10 years ago by heezy3991

No matter what I do my juices continually taste "dry" in the sense that the flavors aren't saturated as well as the vapor not being as moist as it is with a lot of store bought juices. Have any of you guys experienced this, and how have you remedied it?

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5 points

by cjinctover 10 years ago

Try 1% marshmallow.

Or 2% Distilled water. You might be surprised what it can do :)

2 points

by dr3wb0tover 10 years ago

Definitely try the Distilled water.. I was having the same dry problem but a little water helped big time.

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by seanrquinnover 10 years ago

Interesting. Have you tried saline solution?

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by dr3wb0tover 10 years ago

I have not. I just started making my own juice this week though, so I haven't been able to mess around too much. Is saline solution a good way to go?

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by weareonfireover 10 years ago

I'm new to DIY juice, and am experiencing the same issue. Hopefully someone has an answer for us.

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by gcrannellover 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I've had lots of success with saline and distilled water. I originally started putting 5% saline (0.9% solution) into my fruit mixes and it really helps things mellow out and feel more full.

However, juices with saline in the mix will makes your coils rust. I've started using 2.5% saline and 2.5% plain distilled water and I haven't noticed as much corrosion.

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by seanrquinnover 10 years ago

Ah! That explains the rust. Summumabich.

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by longfellow110over 10 years agoMixologist

MTS Vape Wizard. It's like the rug from the Big Lebowski. It really ties the room together. I usually add a few drops of that into every blend I make. Does wonders.

1 points

by seanrquinnover 10 years ago

Do you know what chemical they use? I like ordering most of my dilutants and chemical additives (besides flavors obv) from nudenic, and I'd be curious if they have a competing product.

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by ThirdWorldOrderover 10 years ago

Can you give us an example of what recipe you're working with

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by heezy3991over 10 years ago

The ones currently are

Fruit Circles (TFA) 5% Lemon Meringue (Capella) 4% Bavarian Cream (LA) 2% Berry Crunch (TFA) 6%

The other one was:

Berry Crunch (TFA) 8% Butter Cream (FW) 5% Graham Cracker (TFA) 1%

Most (if not all) juices I mix have this issue.

5 points

by shrine399over 10 years ago

Try adding some Marshmallow TFA and Hazelnut TFA, they add a very nice thickness and moist aspect to cereal blends. 1% MM and 1% hazelnut should do the trick. Bavarian Cream can also help

Also, what VG/PG ratio are you using?

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by heezy3991over 10 years ago

I do have some TFA hazelnut, I'll try this. Thanks!

I've been mixing 70%VG/30%PG

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by Enyawreklawover 10 years agoMixologist

Here's a tip. Throw out Fruit Circles and Berry Crunch. IMO they're terrible flavors. Even at 1% Fruit circles overpowers everything and turns your juice into a chemical bomb. Just my opinion on why your juices aren't good. Also, over flavoring is a huge issue. The more flavors I add the less % i put them. For example I have a 8 flavor juice, 1 flavor is at 6% the rest is at 1% or 0.5% leaving me under 15%. And some mixes I don't even go over 10%

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by skiddlzninjaover 10 years agoFrugivore

You could try adding some .5-1% of actually fruit flavor to the recipes. I'd suggest blueberry for the berry crunch recipe and blueberry+lemon for the fruit circles. I find that straight fruit flavors make the final mix taste more juicy. Not to mention they kinda leave out the blueberry flavoring in berry crunch and fruit circles, so the end result may make the juice taste better in addition to making it a bit more "moist"

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by PM_Me_Your_Clonesover 10 years ago

You could try some EM or MTS or Smooth, those will play with your perceptions a bit, I believe a lot of "house blends" tend to add one or more.

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by Baydenover 10 years ago

what is EM and MTS?

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by PM_Me_Your_Clonesover 10 years ago

Ethyl Maltol, a flavor enhancer that tends to increase perception of sweetness but will also dull high notes in any quantity, large amounts will also make juice seem "ready" quicker/with less steeping but then will mute the flavors once it actually steeps.

More, Thick, Smooth or MTS Vape Wizard also rounds out flavors, increases mouthfeel, etc.

Some good links:

/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1plopo/additives_to_e_cig_juice_basic_questions/

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/master-mixers-tips-and-tricks

1 points

by wecover 10 years ago

Easy on the Vape Wizard... more than a couple of drops per 30mL can definitely give you a cheesy, unpleasant undertone. Personally, I put FA Butter and FA Meringue in pretty much everything I make.

2 points

by snapshotdodover 10 years ago

ethyl maltol, MTS is mellow thick and smooth by FlavorArt, or Perfumers Apprentice has Smooth (literally called smooth flavor)

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by Spechtreover 10 years ago

You could try adding citric acid to your fruity eliquids. I think I've seen as a 1% mix in PG, add 1 drop per ml of final mix volume.

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by five_magicsover 10 years ago

Try EM. I just made my first mix with it and its by far the most flavorful Ive made so far. Could be a coincidence but it seems to help a lot.

Otherwise try not to go above 15% flavors.

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by 0nly1ndefiniteover 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

something interesting ive found... i started out making 2.5mL bottles using weight and all the proper ratios... all my flavours were flat, dry and bland.

take the exact same ratios but make 30mL and voila! yum! let me know if you try this and your results :)

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by VapeQueen214over 10 years ago

I do mainly max vg blends and most of them are around 10% flavoring. Steeping is the key for me, i dont have many shake and vape recipes. What are your vg/pg ratios?