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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of March 23, 2015
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OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by ThatMisterMover 10 years ago

I've just placed a couple of orders here and there to get started, can you please let me know if I might have missed anything...here's my list:

5x30ml Bottles

5x12ml Bottles

100ml PG

100ml VG

50ml 72mg Nicotine Base (VG)

4x TFA Flavours: Pear, Blackberry, Cola, Black Cherry

30x 3ml Pipettes

100g calibration weight

0.01g digital pocket scales.

I have access to gloves for nic handling. I'm hoping to make cherry coke and pear & blackberry flavours to start with.

Thanks!

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"
  • Sweetener - this may help to sweeten your juice a little, to give it that final bump in flavor. Some concentrates need it, some don't. Ethyl Maltol is good, I use Sucralose more often, though. You can also use TFA Marshmallow for the same thing, kinda, as well as for "wetting" your liquids (<1% does it for me). This may do well with your pear/blackberry.

  • Pipettes - having 1 ml droppers may help. They tend to drip a bit smaller drops, which is helpful when mixing small quantities (good for testing) or when you're trying to sneak up on that .01 mg.

  • Patience - I can't emphasize this enough. I'm still wet behind the ears, but I scrutinize everything, taste everything, and read the crap out of the sidebar. There is so much information available there. Don't be afraid to get bold, but do it with purpose.

Finally, find a recipe close to what you're looking to make. Taste your flavors solo in those percentages. Bump up/down by 1% to see what happens. Then, mix a bad ass flavor, sit back, and "chuck tits" (as all the young whippersnappers are saying, and I can't stand it) and enjoy your concoction.

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by ThatMisterMover 10 years ago

Yeah, thinking about it now pear/blackberry might be a little tart without something to sweeten it up. I'll try it plain first to test the waters but will have this in the back of my mind.

Ahhh, 1ml pipettes would probably be a good idea.

I've already found a couple of Cherry Coke recipes and the one I fashioned has very similar percentages (6% coke, 3% cherry) so I'll start with those ratios and tinker.

Thanks for the advice! I'm quite excited about making my own juice.

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Remember to mix small batches at first. If you don't like 5 ml of something, it's cheaper and less use on your flavors to toss it and remix. If you make 30 ml straight out and don't like it, it'll set you back 6x the materials... Think of it as being able to tweak 5x more to get that perfect flavor. In mixes that require 1% or less of an ingredient, I'll mix a 10 ml to be more sure of an accurate ratio.

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by justjoe21over 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

How much DW should I use to get a similar result to 50/50 PG/VG. My Gf can't do pg and doesn't want to drip, she likes here Ego like tanks cause they are easy to carry and use. I'm trying to get her off analogs.

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Can't do PG as in she's allergic?

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by justjoe21over 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Something about pg irritates her throat and lungs. She has taken small hits off my dripper with 90/10 or 85/15 mixes and those are ok except it's to airy even closed. She likes the draw on the disposable ce4 tanks but they don't wick well with max vg juices. So I'd like to mix her up some VG/DW mixes that have the same viscosity as 50/50 so it will work in a cheap carto tank. A rough starting point would be nice like 80//5/15 VG/PG/DW (pg from flavorings)

Edit: E-Smart 1ml disposable tank off FT not Ce4

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Are those the mouth-to-lung draws on those devices? The reason I ask is because the Aspire Atlantis allows higher VG juices to wick and has a ton of adjustment. I had an 85 VG wicking great with no dry hits on full-open. I can get a good mouth-to-lung hit by spinning the ring to about 3/4 closed on the smallest hole.

That being said, I'd try 85/5/10 VG/PG/DW. DW, from what I've been seeing, gets really watery really fast (go figure). See how that starts out. 80/5/15 may be it, but (personally) I'd start at 10% DW.

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by xythinover 10 years agoPâtissier

So if I'm mixing 4 flavors for a total of 10% flavoring in a mix, and I want to experiment by making two more batches one with 9% and one with 11% do I divide that 1% Into 4 and take .25% off each of my flavorings to reduce and add .25% to each to increase 1%.

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

For people who are mathematically disabled, like me, there is www.e-liquid-recipes.com. Make your flavor base, call it something in the ingredient list, then tweak your percentage.

Take that, high school math teacher!

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by bromophobic272over 10 years ago

I've been skipping Nic all together in my diy juice. Partly because I didn't want to use it anymore, and mostly because it seems to be the most complicated part of diy. (Vg/pg/flavor is so simple) Am I missing out by not doing at least 3mg in my mixes? Some of my mixes so far are good, but not great. Can't tell if it's because they lack Nic, or if it's because I'm still new to mixing and have yet to dial in recipes enough to make some really good juice. I've been unable to find a lot of info about diy with no Nic.

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by damanakinover 10 years ago

So, i've vaped for roughly a year, helped me quit smoking(i didnt smoke for long, but it still helped as i became highly addicted to analogs) but i dont have the income to buy so much juice (according to my local brick and mortar i vape like a freaking fiend) so im looking into mixing my own, i am close to the owner of a shaved ice company that makes their flavorings themselves, and ive asked if she would consider selling straight concentrates, she ended up agreeing. but before i purchase them i needed to do research if this would actually work or not. after all my research im still iffy, she says her concentrates are sugar based, and for the sugar free ones they use aspartme. so the "ingredients" to the concentrate are as follows:

Water

Color

Flavor

Sweetener(sugar/aspartame)

And my question, can it be vaped(when mixed appropriately with pg/vg.

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Because these are basically flavored simple syrup, I would imagine that they would gum up your coils something fierce. The flavorings are essentially 50/50 sugar and water, which would caramelize on your coils.

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by damanakinover 10 years ago

well, these are the concentrates that she would then mix with syrups. but idk, im new here so you might be more correct than me.

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by DownwardSpiralsover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

So she mixes the flavor concentrate with the simple syrup? It's been a while since I worked in a snow cone place, but I remember everything coming pre-made. I don't know if that changes anything.

Any idea of the brand of flavorings?

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by mingotover 10 years ago

Sugar is going to make it a no go.

It is funny, though, I am considering making my own flavors to put over shaved ice. I was going to use the flavor concentrates I use for DIY and mix them into simple syrup.

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by damanakinover 10 years ago

but, if the sugar is removed/replaced(with the aspartame) would it be a go?

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by TheBrownWelshover 10 years ago

Is there a DIY eJuice version of the Supercook tool? I just got my first batch of DIY supplies and I only ordered flavours with one specific juice I want to copy in mind, but it'd be nice to know what else I might be able to come up with.

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by rakeleerover 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I'm new , but it seems like (please someone correct me if I'm misunderstanding) that if you create an account and add your flavors at ELR there's a button in "My Flavor Stash" that reads "What can I make?". Is that what you're after?

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by TheBrownWelshover 10 years ago

Yuuuup, that's exactly what I was after. Thanks!

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by Roy_packs_modsover 10 years ago

I have a pretty specific question. After almost a year of vaping I've finally found my ADV. It's a mango ice tea flavor that my local vapeshop sells and now I figure I can make it myself to save a lot of money. Im not interested in making a bunch of different flavor I only want to make THIS SPECIFIC FLAVOR. So what all do I need to buy to start making juice and does anyone have any good mango tea recipes? (I prefer a 70/30 vg/pg mix with 6mg/ml of nicotine)

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