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Juice suddenly lost flavor?
submitted over 10 years ago by Nikeinajar

Ok weird thing happened a couple days ago, I made a test batch, all tfa flavors, at about 15%. Liked it, made a 15ml with a few tiny adjustments. Tasted even better. Went ahead and made a 30ml with just a few extra layers of flavor, keeping the general idea going. After mixing it all up it went cloudy, figured "ok let it steep and maybe a little warm bath." did that, didn't clear up after a week so I figured what the hell I'll see how it turned out, gave it a good long shake and vaped it. Tasted amazing. Fast forward a couple days, got up in the morning shook it and dripped and no flavor, at all, shook it a bunch more still no flavor. warm bath and shaking, no flavor. What gives? Any ideas?

edit: should note the ingredients:

all tfa: watermelon, pineapple, coconut, key lime, lemon, and whipped cream. Predominate flavors are coconut and key lime.

nicotine is nude nicotine 100mg 100% vg

and the rest is kosher grade vg.

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by VapeQueen214over 10 years ago

Its the key lime, i make a key lime pie recipe based off someones post on here and the flavor is completely muted and flat after a week and a half to two weeks. i always just make small bottles of it whenever i make it so it doesnt sit for too long. Ive never found a way around it either.

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by moonlightsunover 10 years ago

Just a thought from reading your comment and just had the same thing happen. Maybe we should pre steep everything but the key lime. Add the last bit just before you go to use it.

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by returnityover 10 years ago

consider adding citric acid. it acts to preserve flavor, and works excellently to enhance citrus and fruit flavors anyways. try 1 drop per 5mL of 10% solution, it will very subtly brighten fruits and may help longevity without adding tartness.

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by then00bx7over 10 years agoFrugivore

Everytime i use more than 1% of coconut it seems everything is muted and plastic tasting. Maybe you are having a similar issue.

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by AnyColorIWantover 10 years ago

This isn't really DIY related, as I didn't make this juice, but I've found that certain juices seem to lose their flavor over time, dependant upon temperature and exposure to oxygen, or perhaps certain flavorings used.

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by Adrolakover 10 years ago

I bought a really good bottle of premium ejuice once, and it tasted great at first. A week later it tasted like wet cardboard. I regret it.

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by Meazusover 10 years agoMixologist

Could it be vapers tongue?

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

I don't think so, I vape different flavors all the time to switch it up. I vaped that for a day, then I switched to some witty octopus I had while thinking up new ideas. Went back to it the next day and no flavor.

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by Meazusover 10 years agoMixologist

What's the nic level and vg/pg?

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

Nic is 1.2mg, and only flavoring is pg so 85vg/15pg

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

Ok so I'll try a 50/50 blend but seems that my flavors are doomed :( shame it tasted so freaking good too. It was just a great tropical daiquire ish recipe.

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by maccabeusover 10 years agoPâtissier

it would be helpful to see your individual flavor percentages. the only things I can think of off the top of my head are that you need to try a little pg or less lime.

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

Don't have the recipe on hand but the jist is like 1% watermelon 1% pineapple 4% lime 2% lemon 4% coconut 3% whipped cream

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by DuskMSover 10 years ago

Is that coconut or coconut extra?

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

just coconut

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by soad2237over 10 years ago

TFA Pineapple makes juices cloudy. Anything citrus for that matter.

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

I haven't had that happen before on my other mixes with pineapple, and my other one with pineapple was around 5-6% with some guava 8% and a little black currant 2%.

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by lvanDragoover 10 years ago

I was actually thinking, what if we put too much of it? Or not enough of it? So after steeping it gets too diluted to even taste or it gets too strong of flavor that we just can't taste it? Can you try the experiment with one doing a 50% increase in flavors and on doing a 50% decrease in flavors and just let them steep for 2 weeks?

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by Nikeinajarover 10 years ago

Enough of what? Total flavoring? Totals up to 15%, most recipes call for 10-20%. Depending on the flavors 10% can be perfect to too much.

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by lvanDragoover 10 years ago

That's what I mean. Lets say you put in 1 ml of strawberry. In one batch put 2 ml in another batch put 0.5 ml. It seems as thought the steeping process does something to flavors. So that's what you are trying to determine, is there too much flavor after steeping or too little flavor. Aging the juice changes the flavors extremely sometimes.

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by jl2121over 10 years agoMixologist

Not saying this will fix your recipe or anything, but you said you ran this juice as max VG (all VG besides flavorings). While most juices may run 10-20%, and 15% is right in the middle, it may be possible that 85%VG is enough to dilute the flavors you're running. I'll also say that very rarely is there a good juice below 15% flavoring that is made with all TPA... Most of the 10-15% juices are using LorAnn's or FlavorArt or something that is much more concentrated than TPA... So 15% is actually on the low-end, especially for a max VG juice. Try either bumping your flavors up 10-15%, or try making it a 70/30 blend and test it out.

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by returnityover 10 years ago

I concur with this, bump up your TFA flavorings.

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by purty707over 10 years ago

this has been happening to a mix i make. it tastes amazing the first day or two then it fades.

some flavors such as tfa pineapple do this to your mix.

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