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Android updated with support for premixed (VPG) bases, steeping notifications, recipe cloning etc
submitted over 10 years ago by oyvindi

A lot of users asked for VPG/premixed base support, so I made a new calculator for the purpose. You simply define and add as many bases you need, and mix them using sliders (and locks).

Recipes can now be cloned, handy if you're making variants.

When you create a batch, you can now set a steeping notification by choosing number of days.

Feel free to ask questions, or throw feature requests at me :D

UPDATE: Uploaded a minor fix: The recipe viewer showed "VG - Pure propylene glycol" with "PG - Pure vegetable glycerine". Not critical, just looked stupid :D

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idland.oyvindi.e_juicelab

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by Paulg287over 10 years ago

Thanks love your app! You should think about collaborating with http://www.e-liquid-recipes.com/ to include the "What can I make" feature in the app and link the aroma library with it as well.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Thanks, and good idea ! :D

I've seen the maker of that site is hanging around here some times, so maybe I'll contact him later on.

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by Paulg287over 10 years ago

Sweet that'd be awesome! It would be nice to just transfer the recipe as opposed to going back and forth. And maybe a private or share ticker for each recipe to distinguish what is posted on the site and what stays private.

Plus I think it's a win win since you both are so active with updates and user feedback.

Seriously great job on the app, that's all I use now! One last suggestion for the app. How about a base flavor option to add in the aroma library. You could then have 2 options once you create the flavor base aroma:

  1. Have it added at the specified percentage in the original base. This way you could have the option to easily mix using your pre mixed flavor batch quickly.

  2. Specify what percentage you want to add it as. For instance, This Grandmaster Clone says to pre mix the flavors, then add the mix at 20%.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

I am actually using premixed flavors myself. I make steeped flavor samples at 10% of all my aromas at 60/40 PG/VG, which I use when experimenting with mixes. I might add support for premixed aromas later, maybe even make a dedicated calculator for that purpose.

There are a few things that has priority first, e.g backup/import/export and a way to organize recipes (tags/folders or similar).. I will certainly think about it.

Also, I have to be careful not to make the app too complicated :D

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by simletover 10 years ago

This is really great thank you

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Thanks !

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by borezover 10 years ago

Been looking for an android app that features mixing by weight, l'll have a look at this thanks.

And a steep alarm, great idea.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

This is, as far as I know, the only Android app except Liquix that can handle weight.

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by borezover 10 years ago

Yeah, I've been searching, couldn't find one anywhere.

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by borezover 10 years ago

Just a couple of notes.

It'd be nice to have a section where I can input the cost of my materials ( PG/VG/nic etc ) and it works out how much it's costing me to make each juice.

Also maybe a flavour and recipe database I can send to Google drive then edit it there and send it back to the app ( don't know if this is even possible though )

Great app though, really like it.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

You're not the first asking for cost calculations, and I got that in my backlog :)

I also have plans for an import/export to google drive or similar, maybe a spreadsheet would be useful too. Definietly less tedious to work on a PC than on a phone.

That being said, in case you haven't found it yet, there are a few hundred aromas from the 4 biggest vendors included in the app. Go to the aroma list in the main view, and hit the import-button in the toolbar.

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by CIALuisover 10 years ago

Holy shit, this is amazing. I just bought the premium version. I will tell all of my diy buddies about it.

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by A_ARon_Mover 10 years ago

dont know if its already been mentioned, but it would be awesome to be able to share a recipe with a friend or even share your database of recipe's. maybe link the app to a drop box folder that you can then share with other people. that would be legit.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

There is a sharing function, but it's simple at this point. Definitely going to add import/export, just need more time :)

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by brendanhowover 10 years ago

Is there a way to change the nic vg/pg base percentage? All I see is to choose between pg based and vg based. Here is where I get my nic.

https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/nicotine-base-flavorings/nicotine-solutions/liquid-nicotine-eliquid-vapes-unflavored.html

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Hey,

when creating a new recipe, select option 2 (bottom-most). Then choose "Add vg/pg/vpg" base, and create a new base. You then specify the PG/VG ratio, and nicotine percentage for the base... and you're good to go :)

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by HukItover 10 years ago

Say I want 80/20 (vg/pg). I add 20% pg base flavor and 80% vg base you app still says I need 3.9% pg base when I want to make 3mg juice. Other calculators do not do that.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Calculators do things differently, some of them even confuse percents VS ratios.

My calculator assumes that PG based flavors has ~75% PG. So breaking down numbers in your case:

20% PG aroma makes (of the total) 15% PG. Your liquid then looks like this:

80% VG

15% PG

5% aroma (without PG)

PG/VG together makes 95%, hence ratios are

VG ratio = (80 / 95) * 100 = 84.210526316

PG ratio = (15 / 95) * 100 = 15.789473684

Rounding off gives ratio =~ 84.2 / 15.8

If your base contains nicotine, that will also affect the numbers. The calculations are very accurate, and has been carefully tested. One problem is that we will never know the exact amount of PG in flavorings, but mail conversation with some vendors made me set the magical number to 75%.

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by ceedee99ukover 10 years ago

Ah, that explains why I've been confused that a 50/50 mix called for more than 50% VG by weight or volume! :D

I suspect yours is the only calculator to handle flavourings this way - if it's not too much hassle, could you provide an option to handle them as 100% PG please?

I'd also appreciate the facility to import/export recipes using one of the existing recipe file formats - being able to transfer recipes to and from /u/daath's website would be great but I've got almost 100 in Rod's Recipe Calculator!

Another +1 for the ability to calculate costs too.

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Yeah, I guess adding an option for that would be pretty quick to do.

What existing file formats do you have in mind ? I haven't really dug into what's out there. Note, that the latest release (a week ago) can import/export/share recipes, but for now I only use my own XML format.

Price calculations may be added for the next version.. for now I am gonna take a break from the app :D

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by [deleted]over 10 years ago

No 5050 base shows how amateurish this app is

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by oyvindiover 10 years ago

Yes, you can use 50/50 or whatever. Still trolling, or you're too dumb to use this app.

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