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AEMSA... Are they just a big joke right now?
submitted over 10 years ago by [deleted]

Checked out AEMSA, I guess I see what they're trying to do, but does it even matter? As far as I can tell they want to be the organization that sets the standard for e-liquid manufacturers when things start having to be regulated. Then i saw this and started laughing:

Application fee: $500 due at acceptance of application (nonrefundable)
Monthly Dues: $758
$1500 per initial scheduled inspection

Monthly dues of $758? Did someone just smack their numberpad for that number? Does anyone actually pay attention to these people, or should I even care that they exist?

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18 points
 
by poulwover 10 years ago

vaporchef feels it's a scam- it was an active thread last month I believe.

6 points
 
by RobocopSuperfanover 10 years ago

Specifically he said he made a batch of a juice, split it up into two bottles, and sent them in from different locations. The results he got were wildly different bottle to bottle, so make of that what you will.

0 points
 
by meanrockSDover 10 years ago

I can foresee them selling themselves as a lobbying or political action group- the NRA charges dues and puts that money to good use, brib- I mean, lobbying for their interests. I just don't believe the group as it is, would do so, or do so effectively. If CASAA expanded their lobbying and requested funding- they might earn my $

1 points
 
by maccabeusover 10 years agoPâtissier

NRA dues are shockingly more reasonable than this.

14 points
 
by kirktover 10 years agoBring on the Diacetyl, baby

IMO they are a strong-arm protection racket scheme. I'm with the chef on this one.

10 points
 
by meanrockSDover 10 years ago

It's expensive, it's controversial, and it's been discussed recently. Not sure that anyone has a good answer, but I agree and won't take them seriously until I see something to make me think otherwise.

-55 points
 
by [deleted]over 10 years ago

You're an ass

5 points
 
by soad2237over 10 years ago

If you look and laugh at those numbers then they have no reason to be taken seriously.

4 points
 
by Charliebushover 10 years ago

I saw this too when I first started making my juices to sell. I follow the guidelines they've established but can't afford the fees they want. It looks as if they are forming this organization to make the barrier to entry exponentially more expensive and to keep competition down. This keeps random people from distributing e juices that could be contaminated, but also hurts small batch crafters like myself. All in all it's nice to have expected standards but it's unreasonable to charge such high cost.

5 points
 
by redbeard1083over 10 years agoMixologist

agreed. it's not hard to not contaminate juice either. i mix by weight and each flavor has it's own dropper. all it does is provide a sense of security and extra cost to customers.

1 points
 
by Raiden395over 10 years ago

I believe when he mentioned "contamination" he was not talking about cross contaminating flavors but contamination by dirt, i.e. dust particles, pet dander, dry skin, hard water, etc... If you cross contaminate flavors, so what? You're product tastes bad, you lose sales; if you contaminate with dirt or foreign substances other than the ones intended for e-juice, it might not make the product taste bad, but it could negatively affect the user (although this point has yet to be proven).

1 points
 
by redbeard1083over 10 years agoMixologist

i'm aware of that....using dirty tools is a source of dirt. my droppers screw onto the bottles. very low chance of shit getting in it. you dont need a cleanroom to make juice just some common sense. luckily it doesnt cost 700+ a month for that.

3 points
 
by Raiden395over 10 years ago

SCAM ALERT!!! Their standards have multiple holes in them and are in no way professionally stated. I work in EMC, standards ALL DAY, and the ones created by AEMSA are a joke, flat out. I would caution any e-liquid manufacturer about letting them rip you off.

2 points
 
by sillyconmindover 10 years ago

I think that their guidelines provide a great baseline for quality control, however I'm not sure that there's much value in actually joining the operation.

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