Took a shot in the dark here based on an existing clone recipe and what some other guys did on another site. Wanted to try a different vanilla, and wanted a distinct sweet type flavor (not sweetness, but a sweet honey type flavor, and I don't have honey, thus the butterscotch).
- Peanut Butter (TFA) - 1.5%
- Graham Cracker Clear (TFA) - 4%
- Banana Cream (LA) - 1.5%
- Marshmallow (Cap) - 1.5%
- Acetyl Pyrazine (TFA) - .7%
- Vanilla Classic (FA) - 1%
- Vanilla Custard V2 (Cap) - 1%
- Sugar Cookie (Cap) - 1.5%
- Toasted Marshmallow (TFA) - 1%
- Butterscotch (FA) - 1%
Tasting it right after, I think it is pretty close. I had the banana at 2%, but it needed to come down. I wouldn't expect anyone to just happen to have all these random ingredients, but if you do and feel like giving me some feedback, I'd appreciate it.
Tried some M&H right on top of this and M&H has a slight "spicy" note that this doesn't. I don't know what it could be...
This is one of my projects right now. It's a really interesting juice since, beyond being delicious, it's got "magic" going on with the flavoring combinations. And it's elusive. Note comparing time!
I've found that TFA Peanut Butter, TFA Graham Cracker Clear, and acetyl pyrazine are essential. I think TFA Banana Cream is more likely than LA, but Banana of some variety is a sure ingredient. Plain FA Banana was a no-go, and if it's simply TFA Ripe Banana with some other cream ingredients, I don't know which yet.
The other stuff...boy... I just don't know. I've tried bits of Cap Graham Cracker v2, but don't have the v1 to play with. v1 of most Cap flavors just tastes overwhelmingly like butyric acid and it's distracting.
I don't detect and TFA Toasted Marshmallow in the original, but I've certainly been wrong before!
I found FA Vanilla Classic too, I dunno, sweet? in this recipe.
FA Butterscotch is a new one to try, and since I have all these I'll mix it up tonight and see.
Thanks for the contribution!
I know man, it's a mysterious one! I have a hard time even describing what it tastes like. I definitely get a slight nutty vibe from it, so TFA Peanut Butter seems like a good idea. Thing is, I let a batch sit for about a month, and when I got back to it, I think the Peanut Butter made it a little too creamy (maybe I just need to lower it). Regarding Graham Cracker Clear, it seems to be fairly unanimous, but I get a "spice" from the real thing that I can't place. Thus my desire to try Cap Graham Cracker based on the recommendations above. Of course, I do not have it...and if you tried it unsuccessfully, maybe it gets this weirdness elsewhere. LA Banana Cream is the only banana flavor I have (or ever tried), so I am lost on that one. I think you are right, my toasted marshmallow shot in the dark was a bust; it makes the exhale taste too much like...TFA Toasted Marshmallow. Also, I don't think Cap Vanilla Custard V1 is in it like other people have posted. Seems like everything I have tried so far has been a little too creamy after a steep.
I bought another bottle to compare and sat down last night to attempt a descriptive vaping session. The results: Baklava. Bananas and Baklava. So, I immediately ordered some FA Almond, FA Marzipan, and FA Honey. I've never even eaten real marzipan! When I get those in I'll try em out and let you know what else I rule out...Thanks for posting some of your notes, this community is pretty awesome sometimes!
Edit: Oh, and the color beats me. I know it will darken with age, but my 3mg M&H is significantly darker than anything I have made. It is the same color as the concentrated Graham Cracker Clear. Makes me wonder what is so dark in it...
Mmm Marzipan..... Basically Marzipan is almond paste and sugar. In cooking, I don't get a nutty tone really, only a texture. I have a bottle of FA Marzipan that I used in a mix and while it smelled familiar, I didn't really taste Marzipan from it. Maybe it is my taste buds.
One of the original clones that I mixed of M & H has the same color after sitting for about a month. I still have about 30ml of it and looks just like the original best I can tell.
Hope that helps a little, just trying to contribute.
> v1 of most Cap flavors just tastes overwhelmingly like butyric acid and it's distracting
v1 or v2? I was under the impression the inclusion of butyric acid wasn't really a thing until the version 2 flavors, being the replacement for acetoin and acetyl propionyl. The only v2 flavor I have is vanilla custard and it definitely has a strange underlying taste that can be off-putting.
I am trying to get the base down before adding banana. Most recent iteration is
- TFA Graham Cracker clear 7%
- TFA Peanut Butter 1%
- AP .5%
- TFA Marshmallow 3%
- FA Marzipan .5%
- FA Almond .25%
- FA Fresh Cream 1%
Not it, but I think maybe its getting closer. I may drop the marshmallow or drop the pb down/out b/c this is still too creamy/thick. I also tried with .25% FA honey and it was overpowering.
I have all of these ingredients and may give this a shot if I find a few minutes in the next couple days.
Off topic - Do you have a 'go to' vendor site that carries flavors from multiple (other) vendors?
I've ordered from each of the flavor houses independently, but it sure would be nice to just bundle those orders up on a single site!
(Sorry if this has been asked, I wasn't able to pull anything up in search, though I may not be using the best keywords.)
[Bull City] (http://www.bullcityvapor.com) and EcigExpress have multiple vendors. If the flavor you want is in stock in the size you want is another thing...
I think it was on VapingUnderground that I read this recipe:
Peanut Butter (TFA) 2.75%
Graham Cracker clear (TFA) 5%
Marshmallow (TFA) 5%
Vanilla Custard (CAP) 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) 2%
Banana Cream (TFA) .5%
Acetl Pyrazine (TFA) .7%
I can't find the sauce right now though.
EDIT: Actually it was ECF?!
Yep, that's the one that got me chasing this whale again :)
I made OP's (vapz1) version a couple months ago and it was delicious, but pretty far off.
Might want to try FA Catalan Cream. Maybe instead of butterscotch
Has a little spice to it and a caramelish flavor. Haven't had the original juice though