[It must already be done?] List of diketone free flavorings

submitted over 10 years ago by sevarMixologist

I figure that if you round up the most popular flavor companies - FA, TFA\TPA, CAP, FW, INA etc, someone must have already created a list of flavoring that are either: A) known to contain no diketones (diacetyl, AP and Acetoin to be precise) or B) known to contain any of the above.

By known I mean, lab tested, and proven.

Could someone point me to a list like that, or a spreadsheet, to save me hours of research?

Thanks!

Comments

5 points

by Botboy141over 10 years agoAlmost caught up on orders...

I did this for TFA a little while back.

CAP has not posted which flavors contain diketones.

All of FA is diketone free (if it's in their ecig line).

FlavorWest and OSDIYS list it directly on their websites.

2 points

by sevarover 10 years agoMixologist

Regarding FA, I cant parse Italian, and I can't see anything in English that says they are all Diketone-free. I just found something related to how they were evaluating, or going to evaluate flavors for Diacetyl. A little reassurance would be very highly appreciated. Thanks!

2 points

by Botboy141over 10 years agoAlmost caught up on orders...

Their web site only states that they don't use diacetyl in any of their e-cigarette flavors and that their kitchen line flavors that contain it are clearly labeled (and they are).

I had emailed FlavourArt some time ago regarding acetoin and acetyl propionyl and they have said that all of their e-cigarette flavors are free of these substances. I have not seen certificates of analysis for all of them, but I have for a handful and none contain it. I can also tell you, simply based on my tasting experience, their flavors do not contain diacetyl, acetoin or acetyl propionyl. They just don't have that taste like most other vendors do in similar flavors.

The only flavors from FA that I have not personally tried and failed to detect diketones from were their tobacco line as I don't vape tobaccos.

1 points

by sevarover 10 years agoMixologist

Thank you, sir!

1 points

by FYCHarberappover 10 years ago

All of my favorite flavors are now suspect. I now have no direction in my life.

1 points

by mavactionover 10 years ago

nooob here. I see this list covers these four ingredients. Are these all the diketones that occur? I thought Diacetyl was the main worry...

Is there a good source that outlines the main risk-suspected ingredients?

2 points

by Botboy141over 10 years agoAlmost caught up on orders...

TFA does not use diacetyl in any of their 'flavor apprentice' line of flavors. None of the majors do anymore.

These are the only real risk-suspected ingredients. Tons of sources out there if you do some searching.

3 points

by Glitchlolover 10 years ago

Wouldn't it be easier to publish a list of flavours WITH diketones?

2 points

by sevarover 10 years agoMixologist

Yeah, that's what I meant to say under B)... fixed. Thanks.

1 points

by Mercy404over 10 years ago

There is no scientific test to measure or prove levels of diketones known at this time. The levels found in cigarettes are much higher than those found in eliquids, and nobody has gotten popcorn lung from smoking alone, only smoking and working in a popcorn factory, so the levels found in eliquids are unlikely to be of any significance.

My understanding is that the one organization offering certification of diketone levels is basically trying to strong-arm vendors into paying to join their organization, and their would-be test yields extremely inconsistent results.

2 points

by sevarover 10 years agoMixologist

I'm aware of the science and the background. There are tests to measure diketones upto ppms or even ppbs.

I don't seek to debate the science or the whys and why nots, was just wondering if there was a list already.

Thanks!

Edit: Here's a self-published list. Lacking tests, a collection of these will do nicely: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/554391-my-tfas-choice-list.html