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Naturally extracted tobacco , batch one
submitted almost 11 years ago by [deleted]

quick and dirty writeup...

The tobaccos used with description when available

1.Prescott valley vanilla- burley and virginia with black cavendish

2.Imported whiskey - import + domestic +scottish whiskey

3.black cavendish - steam sweetend and fire cured burleys with a hint of chocolate and

4.baja blend - burley and virginia with green river black

5.Tucson blend - sweet blackened leaf with lemon virginias and creamy vanilla, malt dressing and a subtle and sweet rum note

6.mellow- mellow

7.black and gold - black and gold

8.vanilla- vanilla*

9.captain black - captain black

10.Amsterdam blend - roll your own cigarette tobacco

11."Netherlands" blend - roll your own cigarette tobacco

below I will refer to the pipe blends by the lettering of the names and the cigarette tobacco as simply RYO 1 and 2

*I forgot to buy the second batch of vanilla so only had one ounce, hence the vanilla will only be used in a slow room temperature maceration.

The supplies :

All jars are 8 oz canning jars and each contains one ounce of tobacco to begin. The tobaccos were kept in a freezer before use for many days.

A1 series- 150ml PG to saturate. Room temperature maceration (why reinvent the wheel?)

B1 series- 150 cc everclear 190 proof which had been chilled in my freezer before use, Tobacco in this series includes CB, PVV, BC, M and BB .These were capped and placed for 6 hours in a freezer, removed then filterd with aeropress (just experimenting, no reason to break out the vacuum filter just yet) and left open and sitting with a fan on them in front of an open window ) . They will be left for 24 hours until a syrup concentrate forms.

Upon retrieving this from the freezer and putting it into the aeropress I noticed the tobacco felt "crisp" and "dry" , almost like I'd hit it with liquid nitrogen! , total liquid about 125cc per jar (from the original 150cc used) , questionable as to how much liquid I will be able to dry off.

B2 series - 100% vg , put in freezer, 150cc, TB, IW, BG - checked on after 2 hours vegetable glycerin is gelatinous, removed from freezer and placed with A1 series for time maceration at room temperature. This was an accidental addition as I did not want to leave to go get more everclear.

c1 series - 50/50 pg vg including 2 ryo , 24 hour slow cooker. Series Includes all tobaccos including RYO , purchased a slow cooker but having trouble lowering temperature below 180f

Horrible mistake : I made a jar that was a mix of all the blends minus the RYO , it weighed 14 grams, this I mized with 100 cc 50/50 pg/vg and microwaved and then immedaitely filterd and extracted. I took 1cc and mixed in with 9 cc of 50/50 pg/vg. It tastes...tobaccoish on inhale and...just bad on exhale. I have dubbed it "frankensteins afterbirth" to commemorate its birthday on halloween. I have decided not to get rid of the 100ml or so of concentrate I have, perhaps it will get better with time.

Thoughts : I'm not hopeful about the pure VG but very curious to see how the PGA mix turns out, I'm curious as to wether or not one could add pg / vg in equal parts with the pga to begin with for added flavor effect. The author has purchased far too many mason jars.

UPDATE: My cheap non mercury thermometer broke when checking temperatures 12 hours in, the cheap crock pot is scalding hot, I terminated maceration on the blends contained within it, both RYO1 AND RYO2 as well as the BB and IW. The IW has some kind of foam forming on it. The newer slow cooker I purchased at sears has bathrub warm water, I can place my hand in it no trouble. I'm placing the 4 terminated 12 hour heat extracted jars with the A1 and B2 series to cool.

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by BonRenningtonalmost 11 years ago

Thanks for writing that up, interested to see your results. I was debating something similar on vanilla and hops.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

I've heard great things using actual unprocessed vanilla beans, a buddy of mine who makes and sells NET's commercially just outsources his flavoring agents, too much effort.

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

Yeah warming function on a crock pot is the way to go.

I would recommend using that for the 100% VG one as well.

Curious about results, I've been doing a lot of herbal extracts recently and know that my jump into tobaccos is not far behind.

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by tet5uoalmost 11 years ago

I am interested in trying some of this type of DIY extraction as well. Are there any good resources you could point me to to start this journey?

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

Sidebar =) inertia compiled some stuff from Onions 'DiY Extractions' can't link for shit on this damn phone.

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by tet5uoalmost 11 years ago

Lol duh :D

THanks.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

ecig forum has the most info all in one place but you have to go digging, I'm hoping that by taking thorough notes I can deduce actual quantifiable factors, its super frustrating asking "How long should I let the mash sit?" and hearing everything from 2 weeks to 6 months.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

I'll keep you posted, I wanted to do a little blog hubpage style but they wont allow anything tobacco related so maybe just wordpress or the like.

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by motokrowalmost 11 years ago

What kind of vacuum filter do you use? How did the Aeropress do as a filter? I make some tobacco extracts and have been filtering through cone coffee filters a couple times. I'm looking for better filtration in hopes that the juice doesn't destroy coils so quickly.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

I have a vacuum filter setup with a buechner filter from amazon, the pump is just a hand pump (which will probably break shortly if the reviews are to be believed) , for the aeropress I just used the filters that came with it as this batch i'm only concerned with flavor, I do have 10 micron and 2.5 micron filters I purchased which I could use either with the vacuum filter or the aeropress if it was deemed neccesary.

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by motokrowalmost 11 years ago

Where did you get the 10 and 2.5 micron filters that work with the Aeropress? Thanks!

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

Ahlstrom off of amazon. One of the ones i ordered is oversized but you can cut them down.

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by russkhanalmost 11 years ago

Thanks for the write up.

Why freeze the tobacco? How does that help the process?

I've got some Dunhill London and Nightcap I'm planning to extract soon.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

Well the community uses the term "cold maceration" and its actually just room temperature right?

My thought was just try a few frozen to see what happens when the cell walls and such are broken by expanding water crystals.

I was planning to do an entire series with PGA but I forgot I only had 750ml of everclear and didn't want to bother to go get a new bottle so those became experiments. At 100% VG though, it was jello consistency after 2 hours, those will finish out at room temp.

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by russkhanalmost 11 years ago

Nice, I'll be looking forward to reading about your results.

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by clinodevalmost 11 years agoTobacconist

Most anxiously awaiting these results. I have a vodka/tobacco mix on alternating unscientific freeze/thaw cycle to see what becomes of it. The juices are surprisingly dark considering it's spent hardly any time at room temperature over the last week.

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

That is plenty enough time

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by simletalmost 11 years ago

Maybe you can help me, I took a fancy cigar back in July and put it in a masor jar, filled w/ PG and a shot of Vodka to just cover the top. It has been sitting in the jar since 8/1/14 - I am really not sure what to do next. I know I dump it all out and filter it a few times, but thats kinda where I am unsure what comes after that....

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

Ecf (ecigforum) has the most dabblers.

So its macerated at room temp in vg for 3 months. Remove the solids from the juice bt straining with an aeropress (or just a coffee filter) . Maybe a second pass for good measure.

Its probably 2 to 3% nicotine so you might want to add some if you like it stronger.

Youll have 100% vg cigar juice. For tobbaco concentrates ive geard anywhere from 10% to 30% concentrate , itll be up to your taste. Lets try 14%?

Take 1ml of your concentrate and mix it with 6ml of your pg/vg blend, mix that up and give it a toot.

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by simletalmost 11 years ago

Great idea I recently got an impress coffee maker and didn't even cross my mind to use it as a filter system

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by CheeseVikingsalmost 11 years ago

Let us know how it turns out. Cigars can be finnicky and vg is harder to do than pg but 3 months is a good long steep. The real classy cigar NET's are vg only so this vould be a real winner.

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