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Sourest sour?
submitted almost 11 years ago by AxisOfAwesome

Hello all. I'm kind of new to the whole DIY thing and I ordered some 'super sour' from wizard labs for my first batch last week. Thing is I'm using what feels like a lot in my recipes (like over 8%) and my sour peach and apple pear cinnamon are just not that sour.

What is the sourest sour in you guys' opinion? Is there any way to get it so it feels like I'm eating a bunch of sour patch kids? I mean really lip-puckeringly sour.

I'm not apposed to making my own if I have to either. Thanks in advance for your help.

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by colonelk0rnalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

If you want to make your own Citric Acid solution, you can get a "free" bottle from here. I registered, got the 1,000 reward points, and selected the citric acid. Even got it shipped Priority Mail, and had it in 2 days. Free.

Mix 9ml PG to ~1/4 tsp, and you'll have a bottle of 10% citric acid. It helps to have a source to warm the PG and mix the solution. I used my heated UC, and would shake it @ every 5 minutes. It appeared to be completely mixed in about 30 minutes.

If you didn't want to go through that hassle, I'd recommend Nude Nicotine's Citric Acid. By far the easiest and most consistent method.

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by billgarmsarmyalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

> you can get a "free" bottle from here

thanks for the tip. i registered and got 500 reward points, which was still enough to buy the citric acid, just not with priority shipping. that's okay, i'll wait the 5-7 days. hell, it was free. thanks again.

if someone else ends up using this method and they feel like it, here's my referral code: XAMNUCV. i would have gladly referred /u/colonelk0rn if I had their code.

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by boobieisawesomealmost 11 years ago

Referral for you sir

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by billgarmsarmyalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

thanks!

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by muranternetalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

Referred. Thanks to you and the colonel.

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by billgarmsarmyalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

thanks!

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by JessieAMorrisalmost 11 years agoMixologist

> XAMNUCV

Referral given. I got two bottles and normal shipping for free. :-)

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by colonelk0rnalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

Damn, my code is YNAZXAP

I overlooked that! So if anyone gets their citric acid for free, please use my referral code!

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by billgarmsarmyalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

if it's any consolation, i don't think it works with purchases made with just points.

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by colonelk0rnalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

Booo, they must have changed it. I got 1,000 free points. Perhaps they've wised up to that they're getting one-shot DIY customers only interested in free citric acid?

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by bravesaintalmost 11 years ago

I just used it. Got 1000 points too! Thanks for the tip /u/colonelk0rn !!!!

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by billgarmsarmyalmost 11 years agoFrugivore

oh, i just realized i didn't "personalize my account" for the other 500 points. oh well.

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by SumDudeYouKnowalmost 11 years ago

Buy some citric acid and dissolve as much as you can in PG.

What are the ingredients in the super sour?

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

Citric Acid powder/crystal is actually exactly what is on sour patch kids. Just take a lick before you mix it with PG and you'll know it. Start with 1/2 tsp per 10ml PG, can try to add more but that'll give you about a 20% solution. Never tried to dissolve more than that in PG (will definitely need heat to do it).

Try that @ 5% and increase as high as you have to go, then add a tiny bit of fruit and bam, should be there.

As a matter of fact, going to play with this idea right now...

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by tet5uoalmost 11 years ago

I'm wondering if you just can't get enough in e-juice to get that same sourness.

I mean look at the PH levels of some of the common sour candies..

https://i.imgur.com/x7vRcSB.jpg

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

Yeah I just don't think it can be done. Even vaping 20% Citric Acid solution which is barely dissolvable in PG, doesn't have the sour flavor and instantly destroys coils. Seriously, two drops on each coil (they were brand new) and I had to replace them after. Black and gunky and spitting off weird shit.

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by tet5uoalmost 11 years ago

Also, remind me not to let my kids eat anything below skittles.

(Can't deprive anyone of skittles)

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by raskolnikov206almost 11 years agoPâtissier

Just putting this here cause citric acid rarely gets bought up, but has anyone used it as an additive for an extended amount of time, say 1 or 2 years. And has your dentist noticed any damage to the enamel on your teeth? I ask bevause I used some in a fruit mix recently and didn't like how my teeth felt the next morning, and I'm paranoid about it in ejuice. Citric acid is the worst thing for your teeth

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by m_i_ralmost 11 years ago

I use Lorann's Tart and Sour. Little goes a long way, and can actually be kind of harsh on your throat if you "over-sour" something.

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

so I just tried adding 2% pure citric acid to my 30/70 PG/VG 3mg nic base. No flavor/sour patch kids sourness from it. This is the equivalent of adding 20% of a standard 10% dilution.

Anymore than this and I doubt you'll have a coil last very long (even @ this amount it won't last). Going to drip my 10% CA Solution here in a minute and see what happens...if I don't respond in 20 minutes, call 911 please and ty !

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

still no love trying it this way (I actually dripped a straight 20% dilution). All it did was crush my coils.

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by BuryMeInSmokealmost 11 years ago

So no sourness at all or just very low?

Do you think it still has an effect adding it to recipes, I mean, after this test would you still use it in a recipe?

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

I don't use it in recipes to add sour. I use to help certain fruit flavors to stand out more and it DEFINITELY DOES work for that.

Don't think I've ever used it in a personal recipe over 1.5% and the juice definitely tastes differently than it does without it.

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