A user has messaged the mods asking for some comment on what's going on, so here it is, even though we were hoping to see it played out.

I foolishly injected myself into this early on, deleting a couple reposts of jackster's recipe and making a comment regarding leaving him alone. I regret the former and stand by the latter.

Trying to delete internet content is like trying to stuff toothpaste back into the tube; it isn't going to happen, and I was foolish to try. If you post a recipe on this forum, you leave it open to all readers, including those that are selling commercially. The internet is full of niquid recipes, and some uncreative users make these and sell them to others. More creative types post their recipes for the community to tweak and comment; some of these might be sold commercially. The most creative make amazing creations and sell them themselves commercially - then this sub spends weeks trying to clone them, and then the clones might be sold commercially. If you can't deal with that, don't post your recipes and we all will suffer.

Mod position is that users won't be banned for reposting deleted recipes, and posts won't be deleted either for the same action. If you harass another user and they can prove it, a ban will be considered. Keep it cool folks.

We are a community of people united around the single goal of making great niquid at reasonable cost. Sometimes we post great originals; sometimes we post good clones and other help us refine them. Judging by the response to the recent survey, we are mostly open to ALL posts and don't even want to confine them to relevant threads. I personally really want to keep this sub operating mostly as it has been, because I've found it both a great resource and a welcoming community for DIY-ers of all levels.

On a personal level: I spend more time moderating this sub than the other 5 or 6 I mod combined. It's my favorite community. But I have a full time job, a part-time job (in a vaping related startup), and volunteer a lot of time for a local organization that involves dads spending time with their kids (Indian Princess & Guides; might be called Adventure Princess & Guides where you live, but if you are a dad of young kids please look into this in your area). I planned to spend tonight organizing new members in that last organization, but gave over an hour to put together a mod response to this, because a member thought we mods were unresponsive and I needed to show otherwise. So I hope you appreciate and agree with our reaction.

More than that, I hope we can get back to being the subreddit we were two days ago. Please be civil to each other and let's help each other make great niquid. That's what we are all about.

Final note: I've purchased Bombies 'Nana cream; it's the only commercial juice I've bought in over a year. It's damn good. jackster's recipe is very close. But I made a clone from this sub that i like even better. Sometimes the clones beat out the originals. Keep experimenting my friends.

Vape on

• kirkt