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Custard Note Ingredients - Master List
submitted about 11 years ago by Botboy141Gunner's Gold Gourmet E-Juice
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by vapingatfiftyabout 11 years ago

Color the cells for easy viewing. Click a Column, Select Format > Conditional Formatting. Enter Y as criteria. Give it a nice subtle background color.

http://imgur.com/Zow4cZL

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Updated to include color coding.

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Will do, I just figured people would sort or filter, at least that's how I go about it.

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by vapingatfiftyabout 11 years ago

Thank you for your work!

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by poilacheabout 11 years ago

TFA is the only flavoring company I use mainly because they disclose this information.

For what it's worth, here's something else I found while looking up their MSDS's.

  • Black Sesame Seed Flavor
  • Brown Sugar Extra
  • Cinnamon Sugar Cookie
  • Pie Crust Flavor

All contains Furfuryl Alcohol ( CAS # 98-00-0 ), which is suspected of causing cancer and cause severe irritation.

"A small number of rats also developed nasal cancers at 2 ppm and above. These exposures also caused kidney damage, and a small number of rats and mice developed kidney cancer."

source: http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/iacs/acts/251104/paper31c.pdf

Just google "furfuryl alchol cancer" and you'll get the idea.

I don`t want to alarm you or anything, but anyone interested in those spreadsheets would most likely want to know that too.

Thanks for the list.

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Will update those notes accordingly. It's not something I was watching out for at the time I compiled it. I'll have to do some more research tonight!

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by MuffinBasktalmost 11 years ago

Did you find anything out about this?

Is my apple pie giving me apple cancer?

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by Botboy141almost 11 years ago

All I can tell you is that it's <1% Furfuryl Alcohol in the concentrated flavorings. In my typical recipes, there might be 1% Brown Sugar and 1% Pie crust for my typical pies. Meaning less than 0.02% Furfuryl Alcohol. How that breaks down to PPM, I have no idea.

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by HumanFogMachin3about 11 years ago

> furfuryl alchol

You tell me this while im vaping apple pie...great

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Updated to include it in the comments as well as added a column for it specifically.

Thank you for this information once again.

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

So you'll find that links to a google doc, so far I've only input all of the data I have from TFA but this at least gives us a baseline of ingredients that contain custard notes.

I'll be putting together CAP's next and then FA and inputting them on a new tab of this spreadsheet.

In Summary: 51 of 214 flavors from TFA contain either Acetoin, Acetyl Propionyl, both, or Butyric Acid.

Enjoy.

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by CloudAlchemistabout 11 years agoMixologist

I'll be interested in your CAP results. A few months back I tried contacting them regarding a handful of flavors and they dodged the question, and then just didn't respond when I politely pressed the issue.

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by Sandman0about 11 years ago

Why track Butyric Acid? Did I miss something?

As far as I know aside from a minor irritant there are no warnings for this, am I out of the loop on it?

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

> Why track Butyric Acid? Did I miss something? As far as I know aside from a minor irritant there are no warnings for this, am I out of the loop on it?

Inhaled:

No human information available. Vapours or mists probably cause mild to severe irritation, with sore throat, coughing, difficulty in breathing. Severe overexposures may cause lung damage, convulsions, respiratory failure, coma and death.

In contact with skin:

Causes moderate to severe irritation depending on concentration and duration of contact. Application of undiluted chemical to human skin caused mild burning, redness and swelling after 1 hour. Some animal studies indicate that it may be absorbed through skin, causing toxic effects.

In contact with eyes:

Corrosive. Can cause permanent eye damage and blindness (based on animal testing, no human information available).

Ingested:

Oral toxicity appears to be low, based on animal testing. It is corrosive, and may cause severe irritation of the mouth, throat and stomach, with nausea and vomiting. Although there is no human information available, the physical properties of this substance indicate that aspiration of even a small amount during ingestion or vomiting could cause pulmonary edema, respiratory failure, cardiac arrest and death.

Source: http://caledonlabs.com/upload/msds/2330-5e.pdf

Additional Sources:

https://www.spectrumchemical.com/MSDS/TCI-B0754.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1334.html

Better to Acknowledge it than not IMPO.

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by Sandman0about 11 years ago

Sure, be aware that some of that is way overemphasized. Your stomach acid contains Butyric acid, people aspirate that often and while some die, it's from drowning, not the Butyric acid.

Good info to have in any event, though I feel like we're rapidly approaching the point where we're going to have to have a warning on everything that is made with any flavor at all.

I really wish the FDA had chosen to start testing the stuff we're using for inhalation hazards rather than wasting all that money on trying to whip up bad pseudoscience and create anti vaping propaganda shell groups to justify basically banning vaping.

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Yeah no shit @ the FDA. Either way, I think if we as a community actively name the potential harmful ingredients in our Vape juice (similar to FDA booklets on cig packs now) it will at the very least benefit the community if not giving us a head start on future FDA regulation.

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by dickniggaabout 11 years ago

Great work, thanks.

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by Botboy141about 11 years ago

Just realized the bad flavors were already posted on TFA's site if you do a search by CAS#. I feel like a tard now but that's ok. Will be helpful once I consolidate other vendors info into the same sheet.

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