He is claiming he spends $800.00 to make one gallon. He sells juice at work and a lot of people are buying it . I think it tastes pretty bland. I think he is bullshitting everyone claiming to be selling premium juice.
I spent 450$ to make over 15 gallons, and 300$ for 1000 glass bottles, all shipped to new zealand from various places. This guy is classic full of shit ego vacuum material.
I knew there was no way he could be doing it. He asked me if I wanted to invest 500 dollars. I told him is rather start myself because I though it would be cheaper. He claims is Pg and Vg are premium medical grade, whatever that means.
The nic is the expensive stuff. I just ran some number through the sheet I use to calculate cost and mg mixes, and I could make a gallon of nana-clone at 3mg for under $250. If I wanted to be stupid and make 48mg/ml nana-clone in a gallon it would cost over $400.
My spreadsheet broke though because I use 48mg/ml solution, so it told me my weight was all nic, and the amount of VG to add was negative. oi.
He's either incredibly bad at shopping around for his supplies, or he's lying.
I figured he was lying. The sad thing is he converted so many people here to start vaping. He has continuously tried ripping people off. He wanted to buy my vamo 5 for 20 bucks so he could sell it for 80. These people buying his juice have probably never tried any other juices.
I don't know any DIYers who make allon batches. Whats he charge for 30ml and what's his packaging like?
He charges 5 bucks for 15ml. He has random bottles every time. No labeling.
Maybe if you count fixed costs, overpriced flavoring and dilutants, glass dropper bottles (bought by the dozen instead of a case) and really nice labels. 1 gal is about 128 30ml bottles, so $6.25/unit. If he spent $400 on stuff like mixing hardware, fixtures, stirring plates, experimentation losses, or whatever then it's possible for the first gallon ($3.13/unit after fixed costs).
I worked it out for a friend who was wondering how much that would cost in just supplies. I worked it out, and for one flavor @ 15%, a 30/70 pg/vg mix at 12mg/ml, and it came to just under $300, and that wasnt even going for the cheap suppliers.
Playing devils advocate here but did anyone consider that he actually accounts for his time in that $800? I don't ever discount my time as I do a lot of freelance work... If something costs me 10 dollars in materials, but takes me two hours to make, it cost me 60 dollars, and that's what I'll tell you if you ask me.
If you're making a gallon of juice one 15ml bottle at a time, thats a lot of time... at 5 minutes per bottle that's 21 hours... That's $525 in labor alone.
All that said, if his juice sucks then don't buy it. Just remember that free time isn't free.
It doesn't matter what it costs him to make it. quit being a douche, buy it or don't.
Make your own.