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Why does Banana Cream make juice cloudy?
submitted about 11 years ago by ConvictedConvictPâtissier

My banana cream (TFA) is very clear in the bottle. However, when mix up a juice, the banana cream always turns it very cloudy. Does anybody know what causes this?

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by voiceless_electric_aabout 11 years ago

I very rarely use nicotine and my juice with banana cream is cloudy also?

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by ConvictedConvictabout 11 years agoPâtissier

I usually make my juices 5mg, but I made a 0 nic banana cream yesterday and it was also cloudy. As sillsaham said, probably some reaction with the VG (I do max VG juice) I'm just curious if anybody knows exactly what that reaction is?

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by sillsahamabout 11 years ago

banana flavours tend to make juice cloudy, it must be something in the flavouring that reacts with the pg or vg. its not unusual so i wouldnt worry

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by ConvictedConvictabout 11 years agoPâtissier

Not worried! Just curious XD

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by JessieAMorrisabout 11 years agoMixologist

I am guessing you are using plastic bottles? Often time banana flavors will attack the plastic which causes the cloudiness. I only use glass syringes and bottles when dealing with ripe banana.

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by ConvictedConvictabout 11 years agoPâtissier

No I use glass bottles. However my syringes are plastic. I've heard ripe banana will melt syringes, but I am using the actual Banana Cream flavor from TFA. Haven't had any problem with melted syringes :)

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by iamgr3mabout 11 years ago

I'm starting to not believe that banana ripe will melt syringes. When I mixed juice the other day I filled a 1 ml syringe with ripe banana while I was mixing and just let it sit there till I was done. About 30 minutes later I didn't notice any change to the syringe at all. Or the plunger.

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by To0nMaNabout 11 years ago

Oddly this doesnt happen every time. I vape a DIY Banana Cream Pie, just add some graham cracker to yours, and it seems every other bottle turns cloudy. I have made appx 50 4oz bottles, in glass using a glass pipette for measurement, and appx 50% turn cloudy. Some with nic and some without.

Im not at all sure what the deal is i just wanted to let you know that it happens to others. Sorry i couldnt be more helpful.

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by ConvictedConvictabout 11 years agoPâtissier

Interesting. I've noticed that when I give my juice a hot bath to speed up the steeping process, the cloudiness dissipates until the juice cools back down.

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by To0nMaNabout 11 years ago

I have tried several different ways of mixing the liquids together and none seem to matter. Ill make some tonight and watch it as it cures in my ultrasonic cleaner. The last batch i made was perfectly clear, the batch before that was cloudy and both times i did everything as close to the same as possible. This question has been bothering me since the first couple batches. I know it doesnt affect the flavor but damn i need to know! hehe

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by mattfox27about 11 years ago

Would you mind sharing your banana cream pie recipe?

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by davidk48about 11 years ago

That's interesting. I use tfa banana cream in a bunch of different recipes, mostly 50/50, and I've never noticed cloudiness.

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by mattfox27about 11 years ago

Do you have any ripe banana recipes you could share? Sorry to hijack

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by davidk48about 11 years ago

I don't really care for ripe banana on it's own honestly. The only time I ever really use it is as an addition (about 1%) to banana cream to add that extra banana punch. Sorry I don't have more to offer.

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by muranternetabout 11 years agoFrugivore

Isoamyl acetate tends to cloud because it's not fully water-soluble. Fortunately a little goes a long way.

http://chemistry.mercer.edu/orgchem/bananaoils07.pdf

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by NudeNicotineabout 11 years ago

Banana extract low in pH can make juices cloudy from a rapid change in pH of the final solution. Have you measured this ingredient?

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