I'm just wondering if this has happened to anyone because I sometimes get nervous driving around with juice I've made myself. I think I'm a little over paranoid because it's obviously legal, but it has occurred to me that some clear or yellow juices I have bear resemblance to liquid LSD, and because I only make juice on a personal level I only label them with a piece of tape that I write on. Obviously if they test it in a lab they will know that it's nothing illegal, but I feel like a cop finding one of those bottles could lead to a huge hassle. Thanks for your help!
Yea, you're officially paranoid. I'm more worried about the syringes from Tractor Supply floating around in the back of my van.
Yeaa... I had a similar concern. I normally carry a few syringes with me in a my bag for work. One day while going through security I opened my bag, the security guard and I look down and see an unmarked bottle and 2 fill syringes. It was kind of awkward but it just makes me think how I would feel if I got pulled over and in my bag was the same thing.
I'm wondering how it is going to go this weekend - I am flying into Queensland where I have just found out:
> electronic cigarettes containing nicotine are illegal in Queensland. It is an offence in Queensland under the Health (Drugs and Poisons) Regulation 1996 (HDPR), and carries a maximum penalty of $8,800 for a Electronic Cigarettes (e-cigs, vape pens) containing liquid nicotine. cite
Fucking ridiculous.
I've just spent a month or so getting myself off analogs, now work is sending me there for over a week and I either risk huge fines or revert to smoking.
Thanks for the help. Department of "health" my ass...
That really sucks, I guess your best bet is probably nicotine gum, or maybe try finding a way to get something over there which may be unlikely. I'm from the states and don't follow Australian politics very closely, was that ban influenced by tobacco companies in the region? Around here the big tobacco companies have been lobbying for ecig bans and it's a little bit scary how far they're getting in certain areas
Empty travel shampoo bottle maybe? Still, it'd be scary to try that...
If anything I would blame the pharma companies and idiot politicians over big tobacco in this case.
Their reasoning from the doc I linked is as follows (interspersed with my objections):
>What are the concerns around electronic cigarettes containing nicotine?
>Nicotine is a poison and can cause serious injury and death, particularly for young children, adolescents, pregnant and breast feeding mothers and the elderly. The fatal dose of nicotine for children is 10 mg.
So are cigarettes, bleach and brake fluid.
>Electronic cigarettes could deliver unreliable doses of nicotine and leak. Additionally, electronic cigarette cartridges may contain other unknown, possibly toxic chemicals and often have incorrect or inconsistent labelling and unsafe packaging.
Dose: I don't see how that is more variable than any other form of nicotine ingestion. Get the right strength for you, just like with analogs...
Leak: I have gotten packets of cigarettes wet and leaked tobacco juice all over the place. I would say I get less leakage with my setup than the amount of tobacco that would fall out of tailors or be dropped when rolling my own.
Contaminants and Labelling: Yeah, wouldn't the sane thing be to provide a safe and reliable way for people to buy these products with confidence in their production and labelling, just like tobacco...
>Electronic cigarettes could encourage the uptake of smoking by adolescents due to misleading advertising which promotes them as safe and trendy. Further, nicotine refill containers may be attractive to younger children due to the use of fruit and confectionary flavour brand names, such as Chocolate, Bubble Gum, Apple, Watermelon etc. leading to nicotine poisoning.
Advertising? We don't allow tobacco advertising, why would we allow nicotine advertising?
So unflavoured or "Adult" flavours are fine? Also I find it easier to keep my liquids under lock and key than I ever did with my cigarettes. Outside of the locking toolbox I keep my gear in I have sealed tanks that no child I know would be able to open.
>Initiatives helping people to quit smoking could be undermined through the use of electronic cigarettes and use of these products in smoke free areas.
Or the complete opposite. Never succeeded with gum, patches, etc but e-cigs worked for me - it's ok for them to "undermine" that though.
Smoke free areas? Extend them to be vape free areas - I don't vape where I wouldn't smoke anyway.
If you get pulled over in a low pop town you could be completely screwed. It could take months for a test to come back and you will sit in jail until it does. The bail would be ridiculously high.
A cop in a small Alabama town pulled me over for driving too close to the white line (not swerving or anything). He gave me crap about some labeled MBV moo juice saying it was hash oil as moo juice was a term for hash (i thought it was a term for milk). Also gave me crap for a dried broccoli floret that fell out of a grocery bag into my trunk a few months previously that I was unaware of as it looked like marijuana.
He ended up letting me go after an hour and a half and him tearing apart all the luggage.