First thread can be found HERE This thread will be policed for proper content and posts not meeting the criteria will be deleted. That said, here's some rules:
- Top level posts must be a clone recipe that you have personally made and tasted versus the original juice.
- Sub-level comments may be suggestions for improvement (e.g., "needs more vanilla") or your own version of the same juice. Comments such as "this is spot-on" will be allowed as others test your recipe.
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- Please do not create another top-level post for a juice which is already posted in the top level. Add your recipe underneath the top level post.
- ABSOLUTELY NO requests for recipes. Those types of posts ended up being about 90% of the ECF thread. If you want a clone for Pluid, wait for one to be posted or (better yet) try creating your own clone. Edit: there will now be a monthly clone request thread; you can ask for clone recipes there only.
Recipe formatting should follow these conventions:
Clone of <Juice Name> from <Vendor Name>
<Flavor> (<Vendor>) @ x%
<Flavor> (<Vendor>) @ x%
<Flavor> (<Vendor>) @ x%
<Flavor> (<Vendor>) y drops per z ml
Don't put your Nic, PG or VG in the recipe unless you feel it is necessary for the proper blend. All percentages should be a percentage of the final mix (hint: if they add up to 100% you have done it wrong). If you normally work in ml not %, please use a calculator such as eJuice Me Up to calculate the percentages for your post.
El Kamino by Good Life Vapor
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French Pipe (TE) @ 5%
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Black Mile (TE) @ 5%
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Captain (TE) @ 5%
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Cinnamon Danish Swirl (Cap) @ 2%
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Banana (FA) @ 3%
What company is TE?
Flavors Express/Tobacco Express, an ECX brand.
those jerks are all out of french pipe. i wonder what might be similar.
Supposedly TE and VapingZone's tobaccos are the same source, but can't confirm. Some say there are subtle differences. You'll also pay out the ass. But there's that.
Bro. Found your most recent comment, but holy shit thanks for the furonwang recommendation!
this is incredibly close. it smells near exact as i can tell. it tastes close enough for me, but isn't exact. i think you're right about needing to tweak the tobacco ratios.
about 5ml in, i'm starting to detect a slight bitter/metallic aftertaste. it's definitely from the captain or fp. not sure which.
It does start to take some negative turns with a steep. I get some bitterness, and a fruitiness (not banana) that shouldn't be there. My most recent mix is:
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6% Black Mile Plus
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4% French Pipe
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4% Captain
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4% Banana
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2% CDS
with a bit of sucralose, 1 drop in 10ml I think. Over a week old now and seems to be holding up a bit better. Still tweaking a bit with every 10ml I go through, let me know if you hit on a good ratio. Thanks for the feedback.
i've settled on this:
- 4% Black Mile Plus
- 3% French Pipe (this is what was causing the off flavor)
- 3% Captain
- 3% Banana
- 2% CDS
- 1% CAP Coconut (this is to smooth things out, imparts almost no flavor. takes the edges off the tobacco. almost certainly not present in the original)
been mixing at 70vg/30pg instead of my normal 50/50.
Melon Boba by Good Life Vapor
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Watermelon (TFA) @ 7%
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Watermelon (LA) @ 3%
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Melon Cantaloupe (FA) @ 3%
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Honeydew (TFA) @ 3%
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Sweet Cream (TFA) @ 1%
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Koolada (TFA) @ 0.25 to 0.5% (your preference)
Any comment on how different this may be if I used TFA Cantaloupe instead of FA? Assuming I'd need to increase the percentage a bit...but not sure on the flavor of FA's cantaloupe in comparison.
I've avoided TFA's based on negative reviews, so I can't do an A>B comparison. FA's Is a ripe and sweet, strong realistic fruit flavor. If TFA's tastes good to you, give it a shot.
Strength-wise, the cantaloupe should sit just below the watermelon, if not equal. The honeydew sort of loses its identity, but boosts the other two.
Good to know. I have no problems with TFA Cantaloupe, a lot of people complain of a floral taste to it but it goes away after 3-4 days of steeping in my experience. FA Cantaloupe will make my list of flavors to order on the next batch but need to place a TFA order for Honeydew and some others again first. Huge melon fan here and likely a month or more before I order FA. I'll give it a shot with TFA soon and report back once it's steeped.
Damn. I have a huge clone recipe list I collected and this isn't one that I ever found. Did you make this?
I haven't had the real stuff in a long time but this tastes the way I remember it. Really nice recipe. And it finally gives me a use for TFA Honeydew.
I'm going to try this one. I don't vape sucralose, but I do know that GLV uses sucralose, and sometimes they mix their pg/vg ratio to adjust the flavors in their eliquid. They keep that ratio a secret too.
I have high hopes for this one - melon boba is one of the best liquids I've ever tried, and I can't have it anymore because of the sucralose.
Would love to hear your opinions on it. I add a bit of sweetener to all my GLV clones except this one, I don't feel it needs it. I also find that PG/VG ratio matters here more than usual. 3% LA Watermelon behaves very differently in high PG than high VG, mostly in a visual way. I make mine with 60% PG, otherwise it looks like it stains everything, and doesn't look like the actual product.
I've read the stories of your dealings with GLV, and I'd just get the warm fuzzies knowing that someone could enjoy one of their favorite juices without winding up in the hospital.
EDIT: Don't forget, it needs 3 days for the cantaloupe to stop being dumb.
Clone of Deadly Sin by Good Life Vapor (v2)
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RY4 Double (TFA) @5%
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Butterscotch (FW) @5%
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Cinnamon Danish Swirl (Cap) @5%
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Sucralose to taste (I used 2 drops per 10ml, or .175%.)
Steep for 2 weeks, or 4 hours at 150F.
This recipe was changed from its original posting. I will move the original clone recipe to a comment below.
Just mixed this up in a 6mg 50/50 blend. after 3 days the cinnamon is really overpowering the other flavours. Have u tried lowering the CDS? Recommended steep time?
I'm going to make this. I remember Deadly Sin tasting like a maple bar doughnut. I wonder if there's some maple in there? Will try yours and then yours with a little maple.
I've never really gotten maple from it, but I have been tossing around an idea to use it as a base and make a few variations, adding just a little something. Raspberry was all I had really come up with, but maple should work beautifully. Anything that works in a pastry, really. Hmm... Apple.
Yoplay Parlay by Good Life Vapor
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Yogurt (FA) @ 5%
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Strawberry (TFA) @ 5%
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Blueberry (TFA) @ 5%
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Graham Cracker (Unknown) @1%
This is copy/pasted direct from a post by the creator, circa 2012. Manufacturer of the graham cracker was not included, and TFA has since replaced Blueberry with Blueberry Extra. Yogurt is not part of FA's e-cig line, and contains diacetyl. Unknown if GLV has switched manufacturers.
Clone of Seven Seas by Bombies
All TFA flavors
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10% Watermelon
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5% Strawberry
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2% Raspberry (Sweet)
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2% Blueberry Wild
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2% Koolada
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1% Sour
This hits all the spots Bombies' does on my admittedly clumsy pallette. For some of you, it may be more of a starting point than a finished juice.
Interested to hear other's opinion on this. Thanks for sharing! Guess I may as well order these flavors up and give it a try.
Tried it today. It is sooooo close. I still need some steep time, admittedly.
It seemed absolutely amazing to me after 2.5 weeks. I wasn't too sure after initial mix, only made 8mls the first time. That got polished off last night when I pulled it out to try it again, made it into my tank which is rare.
Whipped up another 60ml today to sit for 2 weeks.
Just thought I'd let you know, if you drip this, you'll taste the koolada...at least I could...sadly disappointing as I just started dripping recently. Above however, you'll find the adjustments I made to make it absolutely delicious.
So it's very good, at least it seemed that way until I put it into a sub ohm and the koolada almost made me want to vomit...
Made some adjustments that I posted over in the Monthly thread. I wouldn't really say they are adjustments to the clone, as I wasn't going for the clone, more so taking what this juice is and improving it for myself and the tastes of those I shared it with earlier today. The recipe I'm now using is:
- 10% Watermelon (TFA)
- 5% Sweet Strawberry (CAP)
- 2% Raspberry (LA)
- 2% Blueberry Wild (TFA)
- 2% Whipped Cream (TFA)
- 1% Marshmallow (TFA)
- 1% Grapefruit (FA)
- 1 drop per 10ml Coconut Extra (TFA) (I dripped it through a 16ga blunt needle).
Can't taste the coconut yet but I think you'll get just a hint of it after a good long steep. All I can is it's delicious after a good shake, hoping it just gets better with time.
Edit: I mixed this mag VG and dripped @ 3mg on a .31ohm dual coil.
Clone of Apple Cinnana from Fuzion Vapor
- Banana Cream (TFA) @ 8%
- Strawberry Ripe (TFA) @ 8%
- Apple (TFA) @ 6%
- Ripe Banana (TFA) @0.5%
- Cinnamon Red Hot (TFA) @0.5%
WARNING: The Cinnamon Red Hot and Banana Ripe means this could be a tank cracker.
Is this a tank cracker with that low % of Red Hot & ripe banana?
Probably. The authentic Apple Cinnana destroyed the tank on my Russian 91% so I wouldn't risk putting this in a plastic tank!
I'll edit the post and put a warning in...
After Day 3 of curing on a hot plate and this is a winner. Using it in my sub-ohm cloud factory and throat hit is awesome at 3mg nic. Will probably cut down the red-hot to .3 and up the Ripe Banana to .7. Strawberry and apple are perfect background notes for this mix. Well done!
Cuttwood sugar bear clone
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10% Ethyl Maltol 1%
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Cap Cinnamon Danish Swirl 10%
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Cap sugar cookie 4%
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Cinnamon Roll (FW) 6%
Liking this even though I just mixed it yesterday. Does it change a lot after steeping? The CDS is pretty strong to me.
Also Cap Sugar Cookie is a really yummy flavor but I never see any good recipes with it.
Here's one if you're looking to burn up some Sugar Cookie:
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4% Strawberry (FA)
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8% Strawberry Ripe (TFA)
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8% Sugar Cookie (Cap)
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3% Bavarian Cream (TFA)
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2% Whipped Cream (TFA)
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2 drops/10ml sweet, 1 drop/10ml sour
Made this as my second attempt at a strawberry shortcake (first one with FA Cookie was no good), and it's perfect for a week or two, but kinda turns into crunch berries. Worth the flavoring/nic either way. 25% flavoring due to weak strawberry, but that can probably come down, drop the SC a bit (6%?) first. If it tasted like it smelled, I'd be rich.
Clone of Summer Solstice by Moon Mountain Vapor
- Watermelon (LA) @ 9%
- Strawberry (TFA) @ 5%
- Menthol (TFA) @ 1%
- Koolada @ 1%
To me, tastes spot on. Even had some original in a drawer to test.
Little to no steep time required.
So I know MMV doesn't add food coloring to their mixes. So I know at least one of their flavorings is red. I made some using watermelon tfa stawberry natural CAP and mint candy tfa. The mint candy is exactly spot on to theirs but I feel like I'm using the wrong watermellon and stawberry lol or wrong percentages. cause it's super close just not spot on.
black pompom by the vapor chef
- pomegranate (TFA) @ 12%
- black currant (TFA) @ 9%
- lemon (TFA) @ 3%
this has been my all-day vape for months ever since i got it "close enough" and i've been tweaking it here and there. it's probably not dead-on, but it's delicious.
I made something very similar to this, sans black currant, and it was a bit too perfumey on the exhale. Think it just needs time?
huh... i couldn't say actually; i can vape my blend within 10 minutes of mixing without flavor inconsistencies, and i don't think i've ever gotten "perfume-y" from it except for that one time i used pomegranate deluxe instead of pomegranate (regular)...
I don't have my recipe in front of me but I think I was around 10% pomegranate and maybe a little higher on the Lemon 5% ish, maybe that's it. Or it could be the Lemon I used. It's a TFA water soluble Lemon, I've never used it before or in anything else. I also added a little bit of Bavarian, but I don't think that'd make it floral at all. Would it?
That looks pretty smart, but the %s seem a little high. I usually do 9% pom, 7% black currant, 3% lemon, and 1 drop lemon juice per 10mls.
I might try upping the currant since it gets drowned out by the sour. I have also thought about adding just a hint of blackberry to give it some deeper notes.
Blue Voodoo from Mister E-Liquid
Juicy Peach (TFA) 10%
Sweet Raspberry (TFA) 5%
Sweetener (TFA) 5%
Sweetener is sucralose. TFA just calls it Sweetener. You can use EM but it doesn't taste the same in my opinion. This tastes spot on for me and its super simple.
If you don't mind answering a question for a noob here, what does EM stand for? I've got translations for the other abbreviations, but still puzzled as to that one.
'nana Cream by Bombies
- LA Banana Cream - 6%
- TFA Strawberry - 6%
- FA Strawberry - 2%
- TFA Pineapple - 1/2% (0.5%)
- TFA Pear - 1/2% (0.5%)
- LA Pear - 1%
Courtesy of /u/jackster1232002 from his thread HERE
Another version courtesy of /u/fizzmustard. His post with bombie's thumbs up can be found HERE
- 5.0% LA Banana Cream
- 3.0% TFA Dragon Fruit
- 7.0% TFA Strawberry
- 1 drop per mL Citric Acid
30PG/70VG
Space Jam Andromeda 50/50 PG/VG/Nic base of your choice.
4% Vanillin 8% Blueberry Extra 3% Pomegranate
Clone of Daybreak from Nicquid
- Bavarian Cream (LA) @ 2%
- Double Chocolate (Dark) (TPA) @ 3%
- Espresso (TPA) @ 1%
- French Vanilla (TPA) @ 1%
- Hazelnut (TPA) @ 2%
- RY4 Type (TPA) @ 2%
- Toasted Almond (TPA) @ 3%
- Tobacco (TPA) @ 2%
- Turkish Type (TPA) @ 2%
- Vanilla Custard (TPA) @ 2%
This is really close, but there is something overpowering that is coming through and has a bad aftertaste.
I think I have narrowed it down to either the Turkish flavoring, or the Tobacco flavoring. Their website has a picture of a black and mild cigar for this juice so maybe sub in a pipe tobacco flavor instead. I don't have any of that flavor from Wizard right now to test.
I came across this tonight: http://vapingunderground.com/threads/more-clones.38508/
The percentages are a little different ( +almond, +ry4, +hazelnut, +fv,etc) might want to give this a try. I've also been working with a version that has M-type tobacco in it that seems to give it that kick of tobacco it's missing.
Summer Sweet from Velvet Cloud Vapor
- Sweet Tea (CAP) @ 6%
- Raspberry (TFA) @ 4%
- Lemon (TFA) @ 3%
- Sweetner (TFA) @ 2%
- Sour (TFA) @ 1%
*optional - I added this once experimenting and liked it:
Watermelon (TFA) 1 drops per 10 ml
This is the closest I have gotten to Summer Sweet. I started out adding too much Lemon and Raspberry. Once I actually smelled the Sweet Tea flavor I realized that this was most of the Summer Sweet Taste. I made this with Max VG and it turned out to be about 84% VG. The flavor was almost spot on with no steeping and slowly settled in to be even closer.
Frankenvape from The Standard:
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4% Kiwi (FA)
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5% Marshmallow (TFA)
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4% Whipped Cream (TFA)
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1% Vanillin
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1% Citric Acid
I dunno how dead on it is (I was only willing to pay ~$1/ml for it once), but I love this mix and it seems accurate to me from what I recall of Frankenvape. I just made a new batch with FA marshmallow rather than TFA, and it tastes even better!
Did you use the same percentage of FA marshmallow (5%) ?
I started at 3% which was a bit more mallowy than with TFA, and I did end up at 5% eventually, though it was much more mallowy (I like that). To stay in clone land I'd start at 3% and see where you want to go from there.
For the vanillin and citric acid ingredients, are those really at 1% of the final mix? Most mixes for citric acid usually say a couple of drops at most per 10ml.
Yeah, you can go lower if you like. I get a bite from Frankenvape that I only get when I up the CA.
Try it with a couple drops and try it at 1%.
I prefer more vanilla some like less.
As posted was most accurate to the real deal to me.
Damn, your comment made me want to vape it and I'm out. Now I want to mix some up I've been slacking on keeping my supply topped off.
Clone of Gravel Pit from CRFT
Yellow Peach CA 8%
Sweet Guava CA 6%
Simple, but oh so fuzzy and delicious. This has been my ADV ever since I tried it, CRFT is 50/50 and I prefer higher VG so I made my own version and its spot on in my opinion. You can adjust the percentages to your liking, but this is what tastes like the orginal gravel pit. Personally I add more guava, but that's just my personal taste.
Polar Bear from Grizzly Vapes
6.0% TFA DK Base
5.0% TFA Banana Cream
3.0% TFA Banana Nut Bread
1.0% TFA Bananas Foster
3.0% TFA Peanut Butter
0.3% TFA Koolada
0.2% TFA Coconut Extra
0.3% TFA Smooth
1.0% Strong Mint/Menthol Concentrate
To make Nanner bear, leave out the mint/menthol. Ta daaaaaa!
Mixed up Channer Bear the other day and did a lot of heat steeping and shaking over the last two days. Just tried it today and daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn...
Better than the real deal IMO. The original was always a ltitle too sweet for me. This stuff is perfect and my wicks are squeaky clean after a few ml's.
You did a phenomenal job. Thanks so much. Time to go make a gallon or three.
How important is the TFA Smooth? I mixed 30ml up and that was the only thing I didn't have. I also didn't use any kind of heated magnetic stirrer. It's been steeping a week so far and is almost there but the DK is still pretty harsh.
Clone of the Dude from Alpha Vapes
Juciy Peach (TFA) @ 8%
Pineapple (TFA) @ 5%
EM (TFA) @ 3%
Mango (TFA) @ 2%
Bombies Black Out City Clone
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5% FW Blackberry Mojito
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2% TFA Blueberry Extra
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1% TFA Blueberry Wild
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1% FW Blueberry
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.5% FA Bilberry
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2% Cap Italian Lemon Sicily
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4 Drops per 10ml Menthol Concentrate (Mine is 50/50 Menthol/PG) The menthol plays a critical element in the overall taste of BoC. You can start with less, but crank that shit up!
Clone Strawberry cloud rat from Axiom
FA strawberry 6%
FW bravarian cream 6%
CAP french vanilla 2%
Mixed at 70vg% and 90%, was better imho
Straight after mixing all you should taste is the bravarian cream. After an hour in hot water , it tastes like axioms strawberry cloud rat