wizard labs gives you more ml when you buy singles but how good is it? any experience with this company/webpage
I believe rts vapes sells 10ml vials of tfa at a comparable price
rts? sorry still new at this
http://www.rtsvapes.com/
and they are only a comparable price when you buy 30ml or more from rts
wl = $.188/ml (8ml)
rts = $.274/ml (10ml), $.162/ml (30ml), $.106 (120ml)
ecx = $.169/ml (10ml), $.141/ml (30ml)
note: ecx sells tfa under the name "signature"
non-bulk tfa prices aren't that hot either. they vary, but here's an example for banana cream:
$.35/ml (4ml)
$.253/ml (15ml)
~$.167/ml (30ml)
bulk prices are better:
~$.054/ml (120 ml)
so your best bet is to buy quantities under 120ml from pretty much anywhere but tfa
I bought all my stuff for my first round from WL. The thing I like about their TFA is they sell them in those 8ml glass vials, and they sell dropper top caps for cheap for them. I bought 40 flavors and 40 dropper tops. the dropper tops I have tested at 45 drops per ml, and seems very repeatable. The only drawback I have noticed is that it takes about 3 dropper caps full to make a ml, so there is a lot of chance for spilling going back and forth. The only other minor issue I noticed, is that the dropper cap takes up about 1ml of space, so you have to use a full ml before you can put the cap on without overflowing it!
I ordered on a Thursday at 9pm, and I'm local, so I put for pickup, I got a call at noon on Friday that it was ready, come and get it. (the old office, I heard they recently moved to a place that is half as far for me, woot!). I met the owner, talked to him at length about the FDA stuff, as this was in May, and the FDA had just dropped their proposal. He took a good half our of his time to just chat, and enlightened me on a few points of the proposal that I was misunderstanding. We talked about a few other things that let me know that they really do know what they are doing.
Yes, I will use them again in the future. I was very happy with what I ordered. They had pretty much everything I needed and was able to buy from one place. I put a little of a premium on that, so I dont mind paying a little extra for things like glass graduated cylinders... you can get them on amazon for a few cents cheaper, but I was happier to just get it all in one go.
hope that helps you decide.
wizard labs buys bulk from tfa and then rebottles. the tfa website is cheaper for bulk orders, but for 8ml samplers you can't do much better than wizard labs.
ecx also sells tfa under the label "signature" and they sell 30ml (~1 oz) bottles for about the same price or less per ml as wizard labs.
right now "1oz" bottles from ecx are cheaper than 1oz bottles from tfa. although bulk pricing (4oz) is much better at tfa.
for example, here's the price breakdown for banana cream:
5.4 cents/ml from tfa (4oz)
14.1 cents/ml from ecx (~1oz)
18.8 cents/ml from wl (8ml)
and, yes. many many many diy-ers get their start on wizard labs.
Could I get a link to tfa and ecx? Wizard labs is okay at the moment, but always looking for cheaper. Thanks
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-54-professional-flavors.aspx (must sign up for bulk account, which only requires responding to an email)
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavors/signature-flavors.html