Inawera does

I dunno about real bulk, I don't do eliquid for sale. But Flavor West is cheaper. People bitch about the shipping, but what I think they miss is that the shipping is huge on a single 4oz bottle. But it is the same for 8 bottles (12? can't remember how many fit in the shipping box). Once you have figured out what flavors you like from them, you can get a lot of flavoring fairly cheaply as long as you buy in a bunch.

But I might be missing something. I don't order that much stuff that often, and TFA might have a better deal somehow and I just haven't taken advantage of it.

This is why I feel tfa receives so much promotion in this sub. Their prices are cheap and the flavors are pretty damn good for the most part.

> I'm personally feeling both positivity and negativity from different posts, like somehow the moderators of this sub have let people down by not listing every possibly concentrate vendor.

I tried to be both positive & negative...didn't want to leave anyone out lol.

Lots of Plp keep saying TPA is the easiest flavors to start with and also mention the affordable sample sizes...then there are a lot of folks that experience an underlying perfume taste in many of the Perfumers (sic) Apprentice flavors...but then purevapes offers small samples of FA flavors that are much more concentrated and in my opinion much easier to work with than TPA flavors.

As far as the sidebar I'd like to see FlavourArt, Inawera, Hangsen, TPA, Capella. In all my browsing around various diy forums it appears to me that folks that have been at diy for a significant amount of time and have worked extensively with all the various flavor manufacturers have culled brands such as LA especially, I see very little interest in FW and many that were exclusively using TPA are finding FA & INW flavorings more realistic in actual flavor profiles. But don't get me wrong, many still use TPA, all I was trying to point out was there are other brand options that goes mostly ignored as TPA for whatever reason is the standard bearer here. Same goes for Wizard Labs.

Hangsen is another that has many good flavorings but many folks associate some sort of unwarranted stigma against a company that has been in the ecig business longer than any.

PerfectVape carries bulk sizes of TFA, Capella, FW, and their own house brand - http://www.perfectvape.com/flavor-concentrate-wholesale/

Www.ecigexpress.com

That's what I've done: Used TFA flavors because they come in small amounts, for cheap, and while I'm learning and getting my feet wet they have been great. I still love a lot of their flavors - maybe it's because I haven't tried many others. I have tried some capella's, and liked TFA better for some flavors (coconut for example). I recently ordered some flavor west flavors too.

To start, I don't think there's anything wrong with starting out with small, inexpensive bottles, and I've been happy with TFA overall so far. Some of them are gross, but maybe I just haven't mixed them right - yet.

I use INW S'Camel, TAV, DNB, LSD...Hangsen T5, Indian, RY4 in all sorts of standalones and/or various blending...also Azure's TA. If I'm wanting something tasty I'll use various vanillas, chocolates, coconut, marshmallow in various combinations...all INW-FA- Hangsen flavorings.

I will say for me the INW Dersert Ship taste horrible, first DS I had ever tried, I also bought INW Dark Fire and haven't worked up the nerve to try it...it smells very floral and putrid. I didn't really care for their RY4, I must prefer Hangsens RY1 & RY4 because the vanilla/caramel are hardly noticeable.

I was interested in trying them but they had so many different ingredients on the labels of the few I read. Any ones you would recommend ?

Cool...once you get going and try out different flavor companies you'll start finding the ones you prefer. I'm lucky in the sense that I'm not into fruits, candy, dessert flavors but I still have a box full of flavors from different manufacturers that I simply don't like after several, several attempts to make them work.

Agreed. And- for whatever reason- it seems TFA needs more "steeping/aging" time for a flavor to become vape-able. That's my biggest TFA issue. Don't have this as much with others.

Because many of their flavors are fucked! not good for vaping, good for baking.

Honestly, every flavor I have bought from Lorann has been horrid. I have a little bin of flavors that I don't use for vaping, and almost every single one of them is Lorann. Last time I ordered from them, I vowed never again.

That being said, plan on using said flavors for confections or baking...one day.

I've heard Lorann flavorings tend to be really weak.

Lorann Creme de menthe is amazing. I have not made another yet but that is one of my favorites that I have made so far.

I thought the post was pretty self explanatory. I don't think I could make it any simpler to lessen your confusion