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A couple of questions after my first couple of weeks.
submitted about 11 years ago by PopeyeAm

I am on week 2 of DIY and a few things still have me confused...

Sweetening: I just need clarification on the EM thing. I have TFA Cotton candy and use that interchangeably with EM in recipes. Is that correct? If someone calls for EM 10% at 1 drop/ml I can just do 1 drop/ml of cotton candy?

I just whipped up the following:

Black Cherry (TFA) 12% 1 drop/ml Cotton Candy (TFA)

Right off the bat it is less harsh then other mixes. I just got a sample of nude nic from Jake and it really seems to be smoother than the nic that came with my starter kit. I know i need to let mixes steep for a few days, it just seems like other people are able to vape right away. Will steeping bring out some more sweetness or is the current sweetness how it will remain?

Edit: I forgot one thing! If I have a needle on a syringe will that add more liquid to my measurement? So lets say I have a 16 gauge needle on a 1ml syringe and I measure .5ml, will that acutally add up to like .7ml or something?

I have a couple mixes that have been steeping for a week and a half or so and they are still rough.

The big question is mostly about the sweetener. I have some more flavors coming in, and i am going to be putting some of the recipes together that you all have. I figure mixing some of these will keep giving me a better idea of what to be doing. Maybe I just need some validation that I will get better...

Thanks!

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by undead750about 11 years ago

Try your juice without sweetener first. When I first started I would add sweetener or sour before I even tried the juice, now I hardly use it. That black cherry seems like a high %. Try it at 7% without sweetener. Think of it like spices with cooking , you can always add more but its a lot more work to make it less. Have fun and play around with it.

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by speleo9about 11 years ago

Agreed. Just try avoiding sweetener if you can IMHO. It gunks up your coils and really doesn't add much flavor to your juice.

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by m_i_rabout 11 years ago

if anything, EM/cotton candy can mute flavors

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by capnwinkyabout 11 years ago

Very true. I've killed quite a few juices just experimenting with it and now it's just collecting dust in my "worthless" section of additives/flavors.

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by NudeNicotineabout 11 years ago

Correctamundo on the sweetener :) 10% in PG is interchangeable with the TFA cotton candy. Seemingly the industry standard as of the moment. Same can be found here:

http://www.nudenicotine.com/product/ethyl-maltol-solutions-5-15/

SOOOO glad you are enjoying the sample! Vape strong!

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by PopeyeAmabout 11 years ago

Jake!! Thank you so much for the sample. I appreciate it and will be filling an order soon! If none knew... Jake is awesome.

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by Demon_Cowabout 11 years agoMixologist

Definately try it without EM first, a lot of people throw EM in everything for some weird reason. If you haven't tried black cherry at a lower % I would also recommend starting in the 5-7% and add more as needed. Find the % you like first, then add EM try them side by side in a similar setup. Any recipe I try that lists EM in it I generally try it without the EM first.

edit: I do know people go up to 15% with Black Cherry and I've heard as low as 5% which is why I would recommend lowest. I always try the lowest I've heard anyone has success with before bumping it up.... I mean it's really easy to add more, and annoying to cut it.

The syringe thing doesn't matter bout that extra at bottom and the needle. So long as you don't push out the liquid, then pull in more air, then squirt that last little bit remaining out. So that .2 or w/e in the bottom/needle gets wasted but it's still .5. Hopefully I said that in a not confusing way, I'm tired.

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by PopeyeAmabout 11 years ago

I just need to keep tasting and figuring it all out... I will give the 5% and climb up a shot. I appreciate the advice!

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by pinkvaporabout 11 years agoMixologist

I personally only use EM in dessert flavors, usually at 2.5%. I would use cotton candy to sweeten fruits.

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