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Saline in the juice
submitted over 11 years ago by johnny_yuma

I know this subject has been discussed before, but just now I was pointed to a vendor that uses saline. In fact he/she lists the ingredients and the percentages he/she uses. Just thought it was interesting.

http://www.opensourcevapor.com/

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

Rebaudioside-A = stevia

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by Ayynoover 11 years ago

That stuff is nasty and I worry about whether or not vaping sweeteners like sucralose and stevia is such a good idea. D:

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by DoubleSuitedAKJ10over 11 years ago

Is there a benefit to adding salt water to your juice? Flavor maybe?

If you want to thin VG why not just stick with water?

My non-medically educated guess would be that inhaling salt all day everyday is probably not a great choice. Not that anything else we do would be but why add more risks?

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by 3tern1tyover 11 years agoMixologist

Saline solution is often used in nebulizers, such as the one my step-daughter uses every day. There are inhalant approved saline solutions which cause no adverse reactions or health risks.

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by nomoanalogsover 11 years ago

There is quite a bit of discussion about saline and more adjuncts in this ECF thread. People who regularly use it to dilute their high VG liquids believe it makes fruit flavors 'pop' a bit, and adds a touch of saltiness to bakery blends. In this post, a proponent for the use of saline outlines his dilution method.

I haven't yet experimented with this yet, but plan to on my next session. You just want to be sure to use sterile USP 0.9% saline to avoid any impurities.

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by Wo0d643over 11 years ago

I was reading up on dry nose lately and found that thread. I've made four juice mixes with the saline and did seen to help hydrate my sinuses just a tiny but 6% but it also seems to have dulled my flavoring a over time. I may just need to up flavoring percentages but...

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by tyjames011over 11 years ago

Ive noticed that SS makes its more smooth or "wet" by just one drop per 5ml and you can also notice the salt. But at the same time it kills the flavor of most mixes.. and adding more flavor does not improve it. It works in only some flavors, fruity flavors perhaps is best.

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by JenjaTheNinjaover 11 years ago

Normal Saline is actually quite compatible with the human body as it is isotonic and doesn't dehydrate cells.

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by encheepenedsentimentover 11 years ago

But when it's vaporized, only the water evaporates and not the salt, right? Isn't that one method of desalination?

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

AFAIK If evaporated, the salt gets left behind. But I think under the heat of the coil, some of the salt is carried with the vapor. Salt will burn and turn toxic, but it is at much higher temperatures than our coil reach.

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by 3tern1tyover 11 years agoMixologist

This is their flavor supplier... http://www.medicineflower.com/flavorextracts.html

Thank you google for quote matching lol

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

That may not be their only supplier. I can't find any allspice or nutmeg flavor there, yet they list it as ingredients in their vanilla chai recipe.

2 points
 
by vaperjoshover 11 years ago

Food-grade essential oils.

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

Ok. Now I see that this may be their sole supplier of flavors. Damn they are expensive.

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

I am guessing they also use "Natures Flavors". It's the only other place that I know of that sells "organic" flavors. They carry all the flavors that medicineflower is missing.

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by vaperjoshover 11 years ago

No, I don't use anything from NF. I did just get malic acid from http://pforlife.com/malic-acid-l-malic-acid-the-only-natural-form-granulated-usp-grade-supplement.html but all the flavors are from medicine flower.

BTW, their tobacco absolute (in perfume) smells like american spirit organic, and I'm sure it's what VV uses for best damn tobacco.

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

Oh, this is your site??? Good for you for being so transparent!

2 points
 
by johnny_yumaover 11 years ago

+1 for your transparency

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by johnny_yumaover 11 years ago

that's some pricey flavors

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by vaperjoshover 11 years ago

I totally put that quote there for that reason - medicine flower won't let me put their name on the website, same for any company that uses their product in another product - hence sodas and deoderants and such can't say medicine flower on them. The sweetener is the same way - it's sweet green fields organic line.

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by 3tern1tyover 11 years agoMixologist

lol so I assume you're the owner of opensource vapor then? If so, I just ordered three bottles. Definitely curious about the flavors, but don't want to pay the outrageous prices they have listed for retail.

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by vaperjoshover 11 years ago

Yes, I am the owner. :) Jumped right into reddit without properly introducing myself. Physics nerd, chef, journeyman carpenter, mixologist.

This is me: http://www.facebook.com/mccord.joshua and this is OSV's facebook http://www.facebook.com/opensourcevapor

As far as medicine flower - their prices are high, but the flavors are potent enough to be worth it. It's just costly to get any kind of variety. :/

At least I can offer a means of sampling their flavors - it would admittedly be rather costly to acquire all the different flavors in my more complex blends.

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

That is quite interesting that they list their recipes... But yes, I have tried saline, and it does make a small difference in mouth feel.

http://www.amazon.com/HCS20039Z-Teleflex-Medical-Addipak-Solution/dp/B00DYZMXLM/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1400677904&sr=8-16&keywords=.9%25+saline

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by PriceZombieover 11 years ago

HCS20039Z - Teleflex Medical Addipak Sterile Saline Solution

Current $17.89 
   High $22.00 
    Low $17.81 

Price History Chart | Screenshot | FAQ

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by johnny_yumaover 11 years ago

Do you recall what percentages you used?

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

around 9%, but it was a solution of saline+PGA+distilled water. I'm not sure how much if you use just straight saline.

It seems this opensource company is using between 6-8% saline in their juice.

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by johnny_yumaover 11 years ago

Thanks. I think Imma have to try this.

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by on_a_mooseover 11 years ago

My only concern with saline is that it might, over time, corrode the coils. I haven't found any information on Kanthal and salt yet, but it's a possibility to be considered. Salt water and metals don't play nice, and with the addition of heat stresses it could be an issue. I'm not saying it is, just saying it's something to look into.

Sterile saline itself is safe enough for inhalation. It's used in inhaled medications. We know the effects of it, etc etc.

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by 3tern1tyover 11 years agoMixologist

Well, I tried to like that juice.... It's just not very good. I think there's too much sweetener in there. I think they'd be a lot better without it. Definitely a good idea for the vg/saline/distilled water though.

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by vapeguy80over 11 years ago

somewhere out there someone is laughing their ass off saying I got thousands of people to put salt water in the juice and vape it.

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