As you said it tastes fucking awful. If i may make a suggestion try Essential Depot, they have a www and Amazon store. I have been using it for several months and other than it being slightly sweet it has no taste, as it should be. You can get two gallons shipped for 46 dollars direct from their store.
My first order was from their Amazon store for 1 quart. I burned through that quart pretty quick and just went ahead and bought the two gallons the second time.
Glycerin Vegetable Kosher USP - 1 Quart
Current $12.47
High $19.75
Low $8.95
We have been trying out several VG brands, and we keep coming back to our absolute favorite... Wilton's (used to make cake icing, found at Hobby Lobby & Michaels @$2.99 per 2oz bottle.) It has a sweeter taste to it and is just all around smoother IMO. We have tried all of the nasty pharmacy brands, and yes, they all taste fucking awful, like melted plastic...also makes me cough like crazy!! I've tried to find out how to order the Wilton's in bulk, but no-go. We have also tried TFA's VG, which was just "ok". Toonman, have you tried Wilton's, and if so, does the Essential Depot VG compare at all? Thanks!
Im sorry i have not tried it but i do have some things to return to Hobby Lobby so i will grab some and try it out. I was told to get ED brand by a dozen or so long time DIY'ers on a vaping chan. I trust them so i grabbed it and have been completely satisfied. Ill definitely give Wilton's a go tho, for no other reason than chasing the perfect vape!
It's USP so it should be fine. You want to avoid animal glycerine, but I don't think USP grade glycerine can be made from animals so you should be good to go. I will say that different brands of VG have different flavor characteristics. PG seems to be pretty universal, but VG not so much.
> You want to avoid animal glycerine, but I don't think USP grade glycerine can be made from animals so you should be good to go.
I have still only found information about glycerine from the vegetable (bio-diesel type) method, and from synthetic production. Where are you getting this from?
Pharmacy...
Tried making it, tastes a little funky
Scratch that... it tastes fucking awful
What exactly did you do with it?
My question above was to /u/SumDudeYouKnow asking where he's getting this information that any glycerine we would come in contact with is animal based.
It's OK, ignore that, explain what you did and maybe we can figure out what went wrong.
No! This is not safe!
You cannot find Propylene Glycol or Vegetable Glycerin with warning labels that say "for external use only" because they're safe to have inside of your body. By a general rule of thumb you should not be putting something inside your body that explicitly advises against it.
USP does not mean something is safe to put inside of your body, it only means that it follows the rules and guidelines of the The United States Pharmacopeial Convention. Many poisons and other prescription medication that can kill people are also labeled USP.
To drive home how dangerous this is, this is the label from 100% Glycerin Spray:
> This medication numbs the mouth and throat. This effect will make swallowing difficult and increase your risk of choking or swallowing the wrong way. Do not eat or chew gum for 1 hour after using this product or until your mouth/throat is no longer numb. It is especially important to make sure children do not eat or chew gum for at least 1 hour after using this medication. Be careful not to accidentally bite your tongue or mouth.
Labeled possible side effects:
> Seek immediate medical attention if you notice any symptoms of a reaction including: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing, headache, unusual anxiety, dizziness, shortness of breath, tiredness, pale/bluish/gray skin, or fast heartbeat.
And again, the bottle is labeled FOR EXTERNAL USE ONLY! I'm honestly baffled by this thread right now...this is so incredibly unsafe, and you guys are playing it off like it's nothing without even actually knowing...
You're very, very confused and incorrect. I'm going to try real hard not to be a dick about this, but I hate misinformation that's an attempt to scare people about something we know is harmless.
First, The labeling is standard CYA for anything sold for a topical application. That doesn't mean its grade of purity is somehow lessened.
Second, link to this spray, if it has the properties you're saying it does, I can guarantee you it is not 100% glycerine. It may be something with a glycerine carrier, but there would have to be some kind of active ingredient to cause those symptoms. Whatever spray this is might contain USP glycerine, but it ISN'T USP glycerine if it has other ingredients present, understand the distinction?
Third, USP grade glycerine is just that, USP grade glycerine. Whether it has vegetable or synthetic origins, samples will be chemically indistinguishable from each other. A produce labeled "Glycerine USP" will be at least 99.5% pure glycerine, with the bulk of the remainder being water, plus trace elements.
Some companies label some of their product like OP's version and put it in the cosmetic section, some label it as a pharmaceutical or food additive and sell it appropriately, and some do both, but all who are selling USP grade glycerine have the exact same stuff IN the bottles.
That all said, there are sketchy companies out there who may pass off adulterated products as the genuine article, so we shouldn't be too complacent. If the USP glycerine one buys has a peculiar odor or taste, it should be returned or disposed of. Pure glycerine has a weakly sweet taste and is almost odorless. It's very unlikely to come across an unsuitable USP glycerine product in a North American pharmacy.