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Intricate combos and bases request.
submitted over 11 years ago by PiCrust

I recently discovered Milkstone. The thought of have premixed and steeped combinations used to create a more intricate flavor is really alluring to me. Does anyone have any other favorites they use like this? General all-day bases, custom tobacco bases, or anything else used to create depth and complexity is welcome.

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by Bluesedover 11 years ago

If you're interested in tobacco' bases I'd offer a suggestion to look into Inawera. It will take a bit of studying and there are various combination's of base mixes that can be put together. I use some of their 0mg bases. Right now I'm working with their LSD (Little Space Drop) DNB ( Dirty Neutral Base) TA Virginia. I just ordered their VPG Power Smoke Base. I've had great results using LSD & DNB bases W/ Tony D'Milano S'Camel 0mg tobacco flavor.

http://inawerashop.com/bases-glycol-glycerine-c-23.html

Inawera hasn't become a household flavor standard as of yet. Only because so few have actually ordered from them...but don't sell them short as they quite possibly could be one of the top ejuice flavor producers in the business. I don't really do fruity but those who do are finding that Inawera in a lot of cases is crushing the competition.

Since trying Inawera, I've posted here about the quality of their product and at best may get one reply. Same with Hangsen tobacco's....folks just seem to have attached a stigma towards Hangsen products that are unfounded. I'll put Hangsen & Inawera at the very top of my list when it comes to tobacco flavors.

109 pages of Inawera reviews... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/477601-inawera-few-reviews.html

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by TheSlovakover 11 years ago

The size options on that site are a tad limiting, and what is the shipping like to the us? Also, how strong are the flavorings? A lot of the fruits are listed as 6-10 drops but don't say for what sort of quantity made.

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by Bluesedover 11 years ago

Click on size options...up to 1 litre...most every flavor states drops per 10ml...my last order was around $7 for shipping....I bought several 100ml flavors for $10 each...very concentrated flavors.

I don't normally work with drops...the exception being Inawera...their recommendations are pretty accurate as they have measured drops per bottle...I usually use their recommendations and adjust to taste...more or less

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by TheSlovakover 11 years ago

Yeah, saw the 10/100/1000ml options.

Thanks for the info on the shipping. Also want sure on the current conversion of US$ to the euro at the moment either. May have to try some things from there soon. I like many of my tfa flavors but definitely want to branch out. And Capella's seems a tad pricy compared to many others. Waiting on their summer sale to happen again.

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by raskolnikov206over 11 years agoPâtissier

I agree with hangsen. I've heard such great things about flavourart tobaccos but they are all too dry, hay or grass like. I gave up after countless test batches. Mixed some hangsen ry4, pretty near adv quality the first batch. The same with vapingzone black cigar and ecigexpress black and mild plus. So good right off the bat. I need to try this inawera when I have more money. Hangsen is steam extracted I believe and very high quality

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by PiCrustover 11 years ago

I'll give their tobaccos a shot for sure, would you recommend any of their other flavors over someone else's offerings, or should they just be "the tobacco brand?"

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by Bluesedover 11 years ago

I mainly work with tobacco flavors...the last link I provided to the ecf thread is very informative, folks that use other flavors have pretty well reviewed many of their flavorings and speak very highly of most.

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by raskolnikov206over 11 years agoPâtissier

41.2% black and mild plus from ecigexpress, 21.2% capellas cinnamon danish, 21.2% lorann naturals almond oil*, 8.2% capellas graham cracker and 8.2% capellas coconut. I made ~120ml of it. This isn't my recipe I found it here and it turned into my ADV

Add at 15%-20% as a base. Needs 1 drop of AP per 15ml and 1drop ACV per 5ml. Good by itself but I usually add stuff on top of it.

Like 5% hangsen ry4. Or 3% bavarian cream. Or 3% vapingzone black cigar. Whstever I feel like at the time.

Edit: *I'm unsure if the almond is safe or unsafe. http://wizardlabs.us/index.php?route=product/product&path=79_97&product_id=603

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by mj1176over 11 years ago

Aren't oil based extracts dangerous to vape?

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by raskolnikov206over 11 years agoPâtissier

Yes. But don't let the name fool you. Loranns naturals almond isn't actually oil based far as I know Edit: I don't know... I'm getting conflicting information. Awhile ago I learned it was safe, now I'm seeing people say it isn't safe. I don't know for sure sorry. http://wizardlabs.us/index.php?route=product/product&path=79_97&product_id=603

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by mj1176over 11 years ago

I don't blame you, Lorann's definitely doesn't make it easy. From what I understand they call all their flavors "oils" since theyre mostly used in baking applications where oils would be appropriate, so the majority of what Lorann calls "oils" are actually safe-to-vape PG/water/alcohol bases. Unfortunately, some of the more natural extracts like almond, vanilla, mint, etc, DO contain oils because the natural compounds that impart the flavors are actually oils themselves. Which the "natural flavors" ingredient in the link you included could very well be. Who knows.

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by PiCrustover 11 years ago

Is this a "bounty hunter" clone by chance?

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by SumDudeYouKnowover 11 years ago

It is a Boba's bounty clone that tastes nothing like Boba's, but it is very very good. Make sure you use natural almond from Lorann's because the regular almond will over power everything.

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by raskolnikov206over 11 years agoPâtissier

I've never had bounty hunter. To me it tastes like a cross / better version of bobas bounty / el kamino

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by PiCrustover 11 years ago

That's what I was getting at... Boba's Bounty, Jango, Scatter Pistol, etc...

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by Ryuuzaki_Lover 11 years agoMixologist

Just a quick question, did you use Coconut Extra in the Milkstone base? I have both just regular Coconut and Coconut Extra. I heard some people said the coconut extra was a bit overpowering.

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by Bluesedover 11 years ago

I've tried quite a few coconut flavors, I personally prefer Capella's, very clean, authentic taste followed by FlavourArt

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by PiCrustover 11 years ago

Ha! I've only just discovered it, so the ingredients are in the mail.... I'll be using the extra though, and I'll be sure to report back. I gather that it just needs to be used in much smaller quantities, but we'll see

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by Skithyover 11 years ago

I used Coconut Extra! It was all sorts of overpowering the first day, so I toned it down a bit... I might bring it back up, though; it tapers off like mad after steeping a couple days.

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by defnot_hedonismbotover 11 years ago

Very interested in this also, I've thought about doing it with some crusts and creams but never did.

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