So I am new to DIY and have been wondering about how much flavors from different venders are comparable in % strength. For example I found that LorAnn's Pomegranate is great at 12.5% but is FA the same?
If I create a spreadsheet that everyone can access and keep it to the basic flavors would any one contribute what the best % is for the listed vendors.
I looked and searched but could not find anything like this. Also would this be something useful for beginners and above? I know everyone has different likes as far as how strong but there has to be a equal number between them.
Just a thought so let me know what you think.
Something like this is already out there. I don't have the link, but it is a master list of flavors with recommended starting strengths. If my memory is correct, I think I saw it on the ECF DIY forum.
I did find this but I'm not sure if its what you are referring to. The list is at the bottom.. http://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/tfa_recipes
That one has just the flavor and its %(sweet spot)
After reading my post I may not have given enough detail. I was thinking something like this if there is enough difference between them to even make one,
Pomegranate - LorAnn(12.5%), TFA(10%), FA(9%), FA(7%)
Blackberry - LorAnn(9%)m TFA(13%), FA(6%), FA(11%)
Here is some info I grabbed from this thread on ECF.
>LorAnn is the oldest brand, but every company has its strengths and weaknesses, and even general quirks or specialties. If you just want to see which brands carry which flavors, they're organized here.
>FlavourArt - list of global resellers here. Best prices I've found so far at ecigExpress (30ml) and me (3ml). Some of their flavors are very strong while others are average in strength, and have overall been reviewed as good quality. They taste more realistic and natural than other companies, many flavors have an Italian style to them, and unlike most companies they are not innately sweet. A full list of flavors and safety information here. Sometimes FlavourArt seems to take a little extra time to fully diffuse through the final solution, probably because it's so concentrated. FlavourArt average strength needed: 2-15% Spicy Cinnamon Candy: ?%, 1/5 Butterscotch: 10-15%, 5/5 Cappuccino: 10-15%, 5/5 Cherry: 10-15%, 5/5 Chocolate: 5-10%, 5/5 Citrus Mix: 10-15%, 5/5 Cocoa: ~5%, 5/5 Coconut: 5-10%, 5/5 Concord Grape: 10-15%, 5/5 Cookie: 5-10%, 5/5 <-- Recommended for combining with other flavors, not standalone. Mango: ~10%, 5/5 Panettone: 5-10%, 4/5 Pear: 10-15%, 5/5 Peppermint: 5~%, ?/5 Pineapple: ~10%, 5/5 Strawberry: 10-15%, 5/5 Vienna Cream: 5-10%, 5/5 Whipped Cream: ~15%, 4.5/5 <-- Recommended for combining with other flavors, not standalone.
>Following %'s taken from FlavourArt's site as suggestions for flavoring usage, however many people here report using some of these at up to 15% for good flavor. User recommendations here will be added in (parentheses): Perique Black 1% Cuban Supreme 2% Dark Vapure 2.5% Mellow Sunset 2% Burley 3% Latakia 2% Virginia 2% Maxboro Ultimate 2% Cowboy blend 1% Camel Ultimate 2% Shade 2% Desert Ship Blend 1% Torrone 4%, 5/5 Coffee Espresso 2% Blackberry 1% Apple Pie 3% Hazelnut 2% (~4%), 5/5 Chocolate 4%, 5/5 Vanilla 2%, 5/5 Tiramisu 3% (5-8%), 5/5 Anise 1% Peppermint 3% Spearmint 3% Menthol 3% Licorice 4% Cinnamon Ceylon 3% Black Cherry 3% MaxUT has an excellent taste chart for FlavourArt's tobaccos converted from info on their site.
>Capella - Available in Canada at HappyVaper and a few in the US at ecigexpress. The flavor drops are more evenly calibrated in strength than other flavors and often innately sweet, and they specialize in more complex bakery/confectionary/drink flavors as opposed to the basic flavors. There haven't been a lot of specific reviews, but they don't seem to make anything that's just bad. Recommended for new mixers who don't want to get into combining multiple flavors right away. Their site also has a section for e-liquid use if you're wondering about safety. Capella average strength needed: 10-20% French Toast strength needed: 15-20%, 5/5 GoodDog's review of 11 flavors.
>Faerie's Finest These flavors have been pretty popular partly because they are made from all natural flavors unlike most other brands. The strength and quality from flavor to flavor varies like LorAnn's but none are overly strong. A list of which ones are safe for vaping is here. Faerie's Finest average strength needed: 10-30% Butterscotch: ?%, 4.5/5 Lemon-Lime: 10-20%, 5/5 Pumpkin: ?%, 1/5 Pie Spice: ?%, 4/5 Grape: 15-25%, 5/5 Rum Cream: ?%, 5/5 2x Clear Vanilla: ?%, 5/5
>The Perfumer's Apprentice - 6ml/15ml available cheaper here with coupon code "ECF" A relatively new DIY supplier, they are great for the price. They also sell other DIY materials and basic ingredients for mixers, notably Menthol Crystals and pre-diluted Menthol drops, diluted Sucralose sweetener (although I recommend using pure Sucralose), and Ethyl Maltol (links are to forum threads about how to use them, products are available on PA's site). A few flavors are clearly stated as being oils. Perfumer's Apprentice average strength needed: 5-15% Little_Girl has graciously blogged in detail about her experiences with a huge variety of TPA flavors. I will not attempt to reduce her analysis to numbers. Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5 Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5 Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5 Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5 Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5 Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5 Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5 Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5 Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5 Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5 Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5 Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others. Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5 Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5 Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5 Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5 Pizza: ~5%, 5/5 Plum: 5-10%, 4/5 Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others. Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5 Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1% Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5 Waffle: 20%, 5/5 Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5 PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5
>Bickford Flavors These are often weak relative to the rest. They're said to be good, some moreso than others. A thread on safety information for all flavors available here. Bickford average strength needed: 20-40%
>Tasty Puff Flavors - available cheaper here or here. These underdogs have received little attention but have gotten some consistently good reviews all around - here's the most extensive one. Their range of flavors isn't huge, but they seem to be worth it. Their flavors are safe for vaping, but some have artificial coloring. Tasty Puff average strength needed: 1-15% Chumpy Chocolate: 2-15%, 5/5 Chick Magnet Cherry: 2-10%, 5/5 Pucked Up Pineapple: 5-15%, 4/5 Midnight Spice: 2-10%, 2/5 Joosy Froot: 5-15%, 3/5 Rasta Rootbeer: 1-5%, 4/5 Electric Banana: 2-10%, 5/5 Pimpy Fresh Peach: ~4%, 5/5 Convicted Melon: 5-10%, 4/5 Awesome Apple: 2-10%, 4/5 Cotton Mouth Candy: 2-10%, 4.5/5 Jungle Juice: 2-10%, 5/5 Blueberry: 2-10%, 3/5 Strawberry: 2-10%, 5/5 Nilly Vanilla: 2-10%, 5/5
>Seedman's Flavors This company carries a lot of tobacco flavors along with a few others that go well with tobacco. Since they are aimed at home-grown tobacco users, make sure you buy the Top Note Flavors (at the bottom of their page). A thread with some initial reviews and recipes available here. Seedman's average strength needed: 5-15% Honey strength needed: 5-10%, 5/5
>Other Flavoring Suppliers: Decadent Vapours Healthcabin Nature's Flavors - Not recommended for new DIYers, PG-Free (Use Coffee & Tea Flavoring section) BlueMist Vaping - 8-15% recommended. McCormick's Extracts - Check ingredients, some unusable. Spice Barn - Check ingredients, some unusable. Flavor West Splendex/EZ-Sweetz Sucralose - 0.5-1% (1-2 drops per 10ml)
>Awards Section When multiple brands carry a popular, similar flavor, people want to know which one to buy. There is no REAL best when it comes to flavor, this is just a recommendation.
>French Vanilla (ice cream-like): 1) PA French Vanilla 2) LorAnn Bavarian Creme Creamy Vanilla: 1) Capella Vanilla Custard 2) PA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream / Vanilla Custard True Vanilla: 1) FA's Vanillas 2) PA Vanilla Bourbon Chocolate Flavor: 1) Capella Double Chocolate 2) FA Cocoa / Chocolate 3) Tasty Puff Chocolate Coffees: FA / PA Toffee: 1) LorAnn English Toffee 2) PA English Toffee Caramel: 1) PA Caramel Candy 2) FA Caramel Honey: 1) Seedman's Honey 2) FA Honey Cinnamon (Candy-like): PA Cinnamon RedHots Cinnamon (Bakery): PA / FA Cinnamon, LA Cinnamon Oil (strongest) Cheesecake: LorAnn Cheesecake Licorice/Anise: PA / FA Tobacco: Varies - Seedman's / PA / FA Cherry (none are that great): 1) Seedman / FA Cherry 2) PA Black Cherry / Maraschino Cherry Watermelon: 1) TastyPuff (fruit) 2) FA/PA (fruit-like) 3) LorAnn (candy-like) Mint: 1) LorAnn Creme de Menthe 2) PA / FA
That said, we can't add or contribute to it. I'd be down to participate in another.