Hey Fellow DIY-ers,
My step-dad introduced me to DIY e-liquid over Christmas break (I'm in college) and I'm starting to get into it.
I am a web developer and thought it would be cool to try to build a better recipe site. I've seen a couple pretty cool ones, but I felt like discovering good recipes was still kind of hard.
So I built http://99juices.com while I was home for the holidays.
The site can do the following: (Copy and pasting from the about page I wrote a few minutes ago)
- Make every recipe be adjustable to your prefered mg/ml levels and using the base ingredients you already have.
- Enter the flavor ingredient you already have and browse recipes that only use the recipes you have on hand.
- Follow other members of the community who make recipes you love.
- Save recipes you want to make (or make again) to your recipe book.
- Tag the recipes you create with an unlimited number of tags to help other members discover recipes they are craving with a simple search.
- Rate and review recipes so the community hears your voice and recipe creators can make their next ones even better.
Right now there is a couple recipes that me, my friend, and my step-dad put up on the site. My step-dad invented his own but me and my friend put up other ones we found on forums.
Like I said, I'm super new to making e-juice so I probably missed some of the advanced stuff (or even basic stuff, haha) that the community would want to see on the site.
What do you all think?
I like it...because it does everything for me
If people start using it I will def bookmark and use it myself.
That's exactly what I was hoping to hear.
My friends and I are going to put in some time to upload a bunch of recipes. I just really don't want to step on anybody's toes by uploading recipes that they created... I definitely don't want to take credit where I don't deserve it.
Anybody have any ideas on how I might go about using recipes found on other sites without making anybody upset? Maybe link back to where I found it originally?
Just my 2 cents... but anything that's out there 'on the web' is fair game and I'd go ahead and use it.
People don't 'own' recipes... and if they wan to 'own' a recipe they shouldn't post it online.
I wasn't sure about that, most of the stuff on the web isn't "free game" to repost anywhere, but I checked the copyright law, and it turns out (awesomly) that you are totally correct.
> Copyright law does not protect recipes that are mere listings of ingredients. Nor does it protect other mere listings of ingredients such as those found in formulas, compounds, or prescriptions. Copyright protection may, however, extend to substantial literary expression—a description, explanation, or illustration, for example—that accompanies a recipe or formula or to a combination of recipes, as in a cookbook.
so, copying a whole site's collection of recipes might be a no-go, but individual recipes seem to be fair game, of course, I am not a lawyer, but this seems pretty straightforward.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
Can you not search via Manufacture recipes?
The standard of measurement should be percentage and not drops IMO.
Your base should be two separate columns, both for pg and vg. I mixed mostly everything at 70\30 I should have an easy option for that. I need to be able to plug in my own base of my nicotine.
I do like the clean layout
You are getting crazy numbers and I really cant figure out why Flavor 1.05ml ~21 drops 10.53% of total.... why wouldnt it be 10%?
Also on the coke recipe I added. At 100mg nic for 6mg @5ml It should be at 6% and .300 ml of nic. Your site is telling me.... PG or VG with 100 mg/ml of nicotine Base 0.26ml ~5 drops 5.16% of total.....
Do you mean like looking for recipes that only use stuff from a specific vendor? If that's what you mean, I didn't build that in specifically. That's one of the things that I thought tags would be really good for.
For example the Banana Sundae recipes on the site is tagged with #tfaonly and #tfa. I think those types of things could be created and perpetuated by the community in the tag system rather than a built in feature for that.
If I'm wrong about what you meant, oops! Would love to hear your thoughts.
I like the promise of it, however I think you should make it a little easier to enter recipes.
I am 100% open to suggestions. What part did you think took more time than it should have?
Have you seen dot1ml? I love how you put in recipes on their site. I honestly couldn't figure out how to put any recipes into your site.
I put in some recipes. I got the hang of it eventually (it was probably easier because I use all TFA and you had that autopopulating, which was nice). I didn't have any pictures on hand :( but I'll work on that.
I didn't see a way to adjust pg/vg percentage targets when preparing recipes for use or specifying which blend your nicotine is in. That was really the only major change I saw that I would make. Someone sent you to dot1ml to check out their calculator, I second that.
I'm also going to send you to a site called brewtoad, which is a recipe community for homebrewers. A lot of their features are homebrew specific, so they don't apply here, but they do have tasting notes and versions which I think would be great in the diy ejuice community. I saw that you don't let creators leave reviews on their recipes (which I understand), but, for example, a lot of mine are "in development," which means I might decide a recipe needs tweaking and a record of that process and changelogs that the community can also see would be killer.
Wow, thank you for the comments. I'm really excited that you decided to join the site and post your recipes up. Yup, I'm definitely going to need to add the PG/VG details to the create recipe. I'm going on a nice long motorcycle ride today, but if I have time tonight I'm going to work on making the "create recipe" page way more easy. I really like the way dot1ml does it, so I'll probably do something similar.
Brewtoad looks awesome. The version control thing is definitely a more advanced feature, but I think I could get that implemented eventually. Really great tip.
Thanks!
Ooooooh recipe with your ingredients : great great. Don't have time to test right now, but will do. I wish you the best, we really need one /good/ site which is the reference for everyone.
fast feedback : it would be cool to be able to flag a recipe as a clone, or as a work in progress. Or obviously you can use tags for that, but then i'd be nice to recommend normalized tags, or make them behave like if they were flags (ie checkboxes which tags)
Looks like you're off to a very nice start here. Will look more closely later tonight or tomorrow. Django?
Thanks! Really appreciate the kind words.
Django indeed. I've done web-dev for almost 10 years using the LAMP stack, but have been wanted to learn Django for a while. This was a good project to learn with... Got to play with a lot of cool technology.
Nice. I have a print media background and watched python/django dev closely in the early years (along w/most other LAMP stack languages/frameworks/CMS's). Judging from 5 minutes of learning some bits about you, I think this will be an interesting project. You seem open, energetic and talented. Good luck!
That's awesome. I love print media -- I worked as a flyer designer all through high school. There is so much cool stuff that you can do on paper. One of my best friends is actually a printing broker + designer. We launched www.printsecret.com together but never found the time to put the effort into it to make it worth while.
I'm hoping it turns out well. I've definitely slacked on my real work to build this community project :)
I think it should be a requirement to post which vendor the flavor belongs to.
On other recipe sites, having to dig through the 10 or so flavor vendors, finding that exact "cookies and cream" can be tedious, and expensive.
Just some input =) Nice work.
Yeah, I thought about doing that. Rather than that I uploaded every flavor name + shopping link (TFA only right now) into the system and added auto-complete on the recipe create page. This way when you start typing "Strawberry Cream" you can click on "TFA Strawberry Cream" (if you got it from TFA) and the link will already be populated.
I'm going to try to make the auto-complete a lot faster so people see it while they type and also upload flavors from more vendors than just TFA.
I chose this way because I don't want to add a lot of extra work for recipe creators... I'd rather put in a little more programming effort to make the whole experience a lot more fluid.
Hopefully it pans out as I hope... If not, I will probably have to make vendor required.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I am getting server 500 errors when I try to click on a recipe. I am using mobile chrome on my tablet
Whoops! All fixed now. I didn't catch that because it only was happening when somebody was not logged in. Thanks for the catch :)
Works now. I like the site and I will post up some recipes when I get time. It is a lot more polished looking than some of the similar sites that have popped up.
One thing that has been missing from each of these types of sites is being able to pick one or two flavors that you have and find recipes that contain them. When you are wanting to try something new and nothing comes to mind it would be nice to say ok what can I make from this kona coffee and Bavarian cream. Obviously it is only useful when there is a lot more recipes, but I think it would be a cool feature down the road.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
That's totally a feature I want to add. A lot of food recipe sites have that type of feature so I'll see how they do the user-interface and see if I can get it to work. From a programming perspective it's not too difficult -- just gotta get the interface to make sense. Thanks for the suggestion!
Very nice, clean site. I really like the plug in your flavors and it'll show you recipes using what you got. Now just need more recipes in the db to actually populate the match list. I'm new to the diy scene and just got a big order of flavors yesterday so don't have much in recipes to contribute just yet but I'll add the two or three recipes that I've made and liked in a bit.
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I wish I was this productive during my break. I love it. Especially the aesthetics of the site. It's very clean and very functional.
My one recommendation would be to add a calculator like .1ml Mixer (link in the sidebar.)
I'll throw up some of my recipes as well. If anything, it will serve as a great backup for my notebook :).
Oh, and I love the "search recipes with your ingredients." 10/10 that is awesome.
Edit: If you press the down arrow key to move down the list of individual flavors for a recipe, it does the action on all flavors. If that makes sense.
edit: When I "create recipe" it does nothing.
What a great comment, thanks man.
I totally meant to build the mixer feature for recipe invention. I guess I spaced on that one! Will do!
BTW, what do you mean it does nothing when you create recipe? I just testing it both with my admin account and with a brand new account. Not sure how to reproduce the error. Thanks!
I should have been more specific.
When I click the "create recipe" button it acts as if I didn't fill in a field. It acts like it's loading a new page, but just loads the same page I was on with the original information intact. Almost like a refresh. I also checked my recipe book just to make sure that it hadn't posted. Nothing is in my book.
Here's a couple of pictures of the recipe that I'm trying to submit. http://imgur.com/rYSP6R5,9jG9a82#1
If it would help, I could PM you my password so that you could see if it's an account issue.
Sorry I can't describe the issue better. For some reason I'm finding the error difficult to articulate.
Rats. Super sorry about the bug... I suppose it's one of those things that is inevitable with a brand new account. Can you try again and take a screen shot of the top recipe details section as well? I think there might be a form validation error.
I really appreciate the help!
Nice work. It would be really cool if you a section for all the clone recipes. People can rate the best/closest.
Hey, that could totally be done through the tag system. Say if you had a snake oil clone, you could tag it #snakoilclone and #clone so people could find it if they searched for it. When I go through and add a bunch of recipes, I'll make sure to tag all the clones with something like that.
maybe this deserves to be crossposted to ecr! Needs moar visibility! Super awesome!