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DIY in Canada
submitted almost 12 years ago by turkourjurbsFrugivore

Yummy delicious juice for < $2.50/30ml in Canada? NO!!! Am I completely insane? Yes, I am but you too can make tons of tasty juice in the privacy of your own home, in Canada just like mom used to make. When I first started this I went small and bought everything from Canadian ecig vendors. My cost then was about $8/30ml. So what's the secret to making good tasting juice for a fraction of the meat counter price?

Propylene Glycol: You won't find this on the shelf. It's not illegal or restricted but just go into a Shoppers or Rexall and ask at the pharmacy counter for Xenex USP Propylene Glycol; $8/500ml. They'll have to order it but it takes 1 day to get.

Vegetable Glycerin: Shoppers, in the first aid section, $6/250ml. Blue bottle labelled "Glycerin USP". Walmart and Rexall sell it but in small quantities.

http://i.imgur.com/ZnhRDTz.jpg

Nic Base: Well, you're kind of stuck with this one. $25/120ml/48mg is the average going rate. A number of Canadian vendors carry it. If you're considering ordering from the US keep in mind customs is instructed to refuse any products containing nicotine however many do have stuff make it through. Vaping Zone is good for being discreet. Remember, lower nic levels = $aving$!!

Flavors: This is usually the most expensive part of a bottle of juice and you can't avoid it if you want flavor. The trick is to get it at a reasonable price. If you just want a few it's dumb to order direct from the manufacturer. Canvape.com sells most of the popular brands (TFA/Capella/FA/FW/Lorann) at a not bad price and now carries 30ml sizes. If you're ordering a considerable amount, go direct. Pic:

http://i.imgur.com/JhiJcs9.jpg

The flavors in the back are direct from TFA, About $75 including shipping. Front right is direct from The Vaping Zone for their yummy alcohol based super concentrates ($50). Their tobacco flavors are incomparable. Front left is a few from canvape; Capella and Flavor West ($35). This might not look like a lot but the goodies in the pic will make >120 30ml bottles. Taking into consideration the cost of all above elements, at 6mg, $2.25/30ml. PG and VG are dirt cheap, nic is a total savings at lower levels and concentrates in larger amounts. It's a considerable up front cost but a huge savings over time (about 2 years in this case).

But how do I know they won't suck? I've made them all before and know how much of each to use (well, a few are new). But how much? How much dammit!! I like them strong so hold on to your panties. Oh, and I personally insist on a 4 week cure:

|Flavor|Usage|From| |:---|:---|:---| Acai Berry|15%|Flavor West| Black Currant|15%|TFA| Black Honey Tobacco|7%|TFA| Blackberry TFA|15%|TFA| Blackberry VZ|10%|Vaping Zone| Boysenberry|5%|TFA| Bubble Gum|15%|TFA| Juicy Fruit|15%|TFA| Butter Rum|20%|Flavor West| Butterscotch FW|20%|Flavor West| Butterscotch TFA|20%|TFA| Caramel (Original)|20%|TFA| Caramel Candy|20%|TFA| Caramel Flavor|20%|TFA| Cherry Cigar|10%|Vaping Zone| Cigar|5%|Vaping Zone| Cinnamon Danish|15%|TFA| Cocktail|5%|Vaping Zone| Dark Plum|5%|Vaping Zone| Earl Grey Tea|5%|TFA| English Toffee|20%|TFA| French Pipe|2%|Vaping Zone| French Vanilla|20%|TFA| Grape Juice|15%|TFA| Harvest Berry|15%|Capella| Hawaiian Drink|15%|TFA| Mixed Fruit|5%|Vaping Zone| Spearmint|5%|TFA| Gourmet Wild Berries|5%|Vaping Zone|

I do very little mixing but if you want as little waste as possible, start with making up the base flavors and know how to make them good. So you have a finished Caramel and a finished Apple. Combine the finished juices 1-2ml at a time. If it tastes like ^Caramel APPLE, you can try again and not waste a whole bottle. If you've said "Oh screw this I give up!", you can vape what's left of them separately and be assured a tasty vape. If it works you can mix the concentrates next time. Document everything! I said document it!!

Finally, tackle boxes are the way to go for storage: http://i.imgur.com/m3jgLTA.jpg

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by fuctfuctalmost 12 years ago

Great post. (Who the fuck downvoted this?)

Canadian 100mg nic

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by joekerr37almost 12 years ago

Great post!

I would just add... if you are using Lorann Flavors (which I'm currently doing)... I found a [Canadian supplier online] (http://www.devinedeals.ca/collections/flavours-by-lorann-oils) that sells for 2 bucks per dram (for those like me who start small on new flavors). They seem to have a fairly good variety as well.

Question about your TFA shipment. What shipping option did you use? Did you use First class international ($10 dollar shipping)? They say if the package gets lost that they aren't responsible, so I've been to weary to use that option (the next cheapest shipping option they have is 30 bucks or something... which is way too high).

Lastly, you may want to cross post over at /r/canadian_ecigarette (just for archival purposes).

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by turkourjurbsalmost 12 years agoFrugivore

I used their First-Class Package International Service™©® service, $17. It tracked up until it passed customs. My previous order I chose the $10 option, it got here ok as well but stopped tracking when it said it was headed to Canada.

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by joekerr37almost 12 years ago

shit i forgot i already asked you this in another post :)

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by Hexariualmost 12 years ago

I order from flavourfog.com, the prices are not bad at all.

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by fuctfuctalmost 12 years ago

Shipping is on the high side. Like most Canadian vendors.

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by Hexariualmost 12 years ago

I didn't noticed, probably because I usually order a lot at once.

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by JohnSitkaover 11 years ago

or buy large order from rtsvapes

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by [deleted]over 11 years ago

This has been a huge help! Thanks for taking the time to write it up and share your techniques! Kudos.

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