In response to my frustration with the current offerings of eJuice apps on the Android market, I've decided to create my own.
I'm interested in hearing what kind of features people would be interested in seeing, here's a list of goals I have so far:
- Recipe/Ingredients List: Add your flavorings, complete recipes, fillers, bases, etc
- Recipe Calculator (Obviously)
- Voltage/Wattage Calculator
- Sharing, Export/Import: One of my biggest frustrations was with my data having to be typed out on my phone, and then being locked to my phone. Ideas I have here are being able to import/export recipes, flavors, etc from flat text files including support for eJuiceMeUp files. Another idea here is being able to email/post recipes for easy retrieval.
Update: I feel you should all know that development on this is currently on hold. I've received a developer unit from Leap Motion, and am currently working with a team on developing a product for the device.
A dictionary of terms and volt/watt guide by ohm would be great for new vapers.
Use the chart I made in it. It's somewhere around here.
Found it. Would you be willing to share the formula you used for coming up with these values?
Yay! It's like you read my mind.
Offhand I'd suggest:
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setting it up to take in to account people who want NO flavoring added - yes I know it's basic math, but some people are incredibly lazy plus something so glaringly simple might just spark the start of the next great juice crafter.
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Make it tablet-friendly! Do not lock it to portrait mode, make the elements/images scale without getting butt ugly.
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Include a few basic recipes, ie vanilla.
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A slider for nic level would be good, which would adjust everything else in the recipe in proportion to accommodate. Make it limited by default to 36mg/ml max with a setting to unlock that cap for hardcore juice makers. If someone doesn't like the slider there should be a setting to turn it off which would replace it with a different element (not a text input field though, go fancy).
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Don't name it AndJuice or anything with "and" or "android" at all. Just don't.
Glad to hear you're interested!
The no flavoring option isn't something I would have thought of, that's a good idea. With the current interface that would be trivial. The flavorings are added one at a time, so you just wouldn't add any.
I'm using an HTML5 framework that is designed for mobile/tablets, so portrait/landscape scaling are all handled beautifully out of the box.
I hadn't considered a slider for nic levels, I may do that. >which would adjust everything else in the recipe in proportion to accommodate.
Can you elaorate on this? What else would need to be scaled?
And yeah, not nearly at the point of coming up with names yet, but thanks to the framework I'm developing with this codebase will be compatible with Android, iOS, Blackberry, and a few others, so I don't have any plans for a ridiculous platform based name ;-)
And just as an aside, here's an update on my progress so far:
Nearly all of the UI layout is complete, HTML5 frameworks FTW! Next up is adding in all the fancy functionality for storage/retrieval/calcuations. Which for me is going to be the easy part, as I'm a developer by trade, not a designer.
By adjusting I mean compensating for the amount used. Say you're making a 30ml bottle, 5% flavoring is going to leave 95% to be split between nic liquid and PG and/or VG. 10% flavoring leaves 90% and the amounts for nic/PG/VG should be adjusted automatically in proportion, like at the same nic level the PG/VG amount would go down to make room for the extra flavoring. Same deal if you put more nic juice in.
Which reminds me, make sure it's got standard size bottles for measuring amounts, with the ability to specify a size too.
Welp, after some tinkering, bug reports, and many failed experiments, it looks like I won't be able to use sliders for now. I'm building the application with JQTouch and JQuery, and packaging the APK with Phonegap. As of this point PhoneGap doesn't support the range input type :-(
So cheat. ;)
http://www.digitalnoiz.com/mobile-development/audio-player-made-with-phonegap-and-jquery-mobile/
That didn't seem to work, but I did finally find a working solution: http://tiffanybbrown.com/2012/02/07/input-typerange-and-androids-stock-browser/
Now to get these foreign keys working in SQL-Lite
Edit: Correction, that seems to be blocking all touch events on my buttons. Oh the joy of library conflicts.
One thing that bugs me with a few existing calculators is they try to predict how much glycerin is naturally in my ingredients. For example eJuice Me Up when told an ingredient has no PG/VG still assumes 50% VG. Probably because an ingredient with no pg/vg is likely alcohol based. However, they also assume water is 50% VG. I can assure you the water I'm using has no glycerin. So if you try to be predictive like this please make sure water is kept separate.
This. I have been using ejuicemeup, and like it fine except the way it handles pg/vg calculations for flavorings, sweetener and nic base are non-intuitive to put it nicely. If you can do a better job there Id be thrilled.
A killer feature to me would be integrated sharing , so that users can submit to and pull from a shared recipe database. Having to manually upload and download recipe files is so 90s. Forgive me if this was said and i missed it. I realize there are infrastructure and oversight issues, just dreaming out loud here.
a recipe calculator that allows me to choose a pre-mix nic base and not insisting i choose PG, VG and nic separately!! and having recipe ingredients minuses from inventory when we hit make on recipe would be awesome... oh and mobile App being Ipad friendly is a plus :)
Those are some great ideas that I'm definitely going to consider.
Though I won't be able to package this for any iOS devices, I don't have the $100 it costs to put something on the iTunes App Store.
So it's going to be Android/Windows 7/Blackberry/WebOS only (pretty much any platform that doesn't charge for app submission).
Update: I feel you should all know that development on this is currently on hold. I've received a developer unit from Leap Motion, and am currently working with a team on developing a product for the device.